Revolution!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Mr.MusicHead222, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. Mr.MusicHead222

    Mr.MusicHead222 Member

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    Most people don't protest because it doesn't affect their personal lives. In the sixties it was larger because of the draft. Alot of people didin't want to get sent to war so they decided to join in on the protests to stop it. Not to say some people didin't actually care about what was happening, but many joined because they didint want to get drafted. Nowadays there isint anything making people do anything, Bush going to Iraq doesn't affect them so what do they care. In a sense we need something horrible to happen to get people to do something. An example is the imagration laws. Becuase people who are illegal immagrants don't want to get introuble they protest (if you remember most of the protests were very large and many kids left school). As always there will have to be people like us to start it, and once it appeals to the masses thats when we have a social revolution.
     
  2. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    In a way, you're right, but in a much larger sense, you're very wrong. I don't want you to think that this is a reply in anger, but dude, you're 13 and you know very little about what you're talking about.

    There are dozens of ways to protest, and yes there are people ALL OVER THE WORLD walking the streets and protesting against the Bush invasion.

    Nowadays there are PLENTY of things that are getting MANY doing LOTS... there are other ways to come to solutions w/o walking around with a bristol board in protest.

    Out of curiousity, since you vent a little about the "lack" of protesting, what is it that you're doing? If the answer is "nothing", then maybe you should lead by example rather than vent in some random post.
     
  3. PeaceMonkey

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    hey man i see wat ur sayin but cerridwen has a point (even though i shouldnt be talking since im 14). still cerridwen lighten up, we're young but we're not stupid, wat were u doing when u were 13?
     
  4. Mr.MusicHead222

    Mr.MusicHead222 Member

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    Just because im young does not mean im ignorant. I guess what i mean is alot of the young people nowadays arent doing anything. And yes lots of things are going on, but not as big, and not as important anymore. And about the protest thing i just went to one against the immigration law. What you said was a little insulting by the way, you dont really know me so dont make assumtions.
     
  5. free2fly

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    Well, its good to at least see young people caring enough to take notice :) .... all I can say is ... if you see something that needs to be done, do it, go for it... it might seem silly to others to see someone young speaking up, but still... what matters to you, is all that matters. So dont worry about being young or anything... even young people make big differences. Your cause can start small.... and grow. There is so much I wish I would have done in my teens and didnt.... and I can tell you that if theres something you want to see done.... just go for it... ,

    I believe in the power of one... if one person is passionate enough to give of his or herself, their time and energy and dedication... into something that they believe is a good cause.... then others will take notice.
    As I told my sister recently ... "Passion ignites" ... and it can burn into the hearts of others. But someones gotta start those flames ...

    :)
     
  6. happy

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    yeah, it's good to see young people caring. i'm young. im 17 and me and my friends are going to the save darfur rally on sunday. i am excited beyond belief.

    RECOGNIZE THE GENOCIDE
     
  7. nudeinthesand

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    your the only one i know that has the same location as me.....i think
     
  8. Bumble

    Bumble Senior Member

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    I was just at a medical mj rally yesterday. I had a microphone and I went off on many tangets! Remember people, a revolution does not come unspoken! Gather the vibes, gather the tibes. Come as one and over power the man!
     
  9. Rev Van

    Rev Van Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    It isn't personal??? I lost my son in Bosnia.

    The killing of a single person deminishes us all. Child you've never seen the hell of war, but I have and I tell you this... all war is personal.

    WW 2: 1 uncle dead, 2 uncles lifelong injuries

    Korea: 1 uncle lifelong injuries

    Vietnam: 1 cousin dead, 1 cousin permatly in a V.A. mental hospital, Self perminatly injured

    Bosnia: 1 son dead


    If you look closely you will find the story all across the land.

    War is personal, very personal
     
  10. Mr.MusicHead222

    Mr.MusicHead222 Member

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    I understand what your saying. First of all im sorry for your loss. However i am talking about the large majority. Not everyone is envolved with the war as much as you are/were. The kid sitting on the couch doesnt care whats going on cuz he can still sit on the couch. if the goverment told him he had to go to a foreign country and shoot at people i dont think he would be to pleased. Responding to this he or friends would protest the war because they dont want him or anyone else (including themselves) to go to war, because then they are being forced to do something they dont want to do.
     
  11. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    if you're so wise, explain to me why the US should give amnesty to illegal economic migrants?
     
  12. Wasteland

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    You say that the war doesn't affect us? I have friends in Iraq. A friend of my sister's didn't want to go, but he got sent anyway even though he had left the national guard, and he was killed.

    Every day, the people who start these wars, those who got out of the last big war with money, are gaining more power.

    Every day, thanks to our oil consumption that motivates these people to start wars in the middle east, our enviroment gets shittier and shittier.

    Prices go up on goods that only 30 years ago it would have been a crime to charge for.

    Our country is in so much debt, not only will we have to pay, our children will be paying for it too.

    The religious right is gaining more power.

    People are being tortured just for their religion.

    People are being discriminated just for being gay, or being black, or for being hispanic.

    People who need healthcare cannot afford it

    Thousands of people are being forced into homelessness.

    Our government has the power to spy on us. The president can break the law and get away with it.

    And if the governmet doesn't like what you say, they either smear you, or they arrest you.

    If you think none of this affects you, you are very ignorant.
     
  13. RJizzle

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    Um......not involved in the war.

    How about the protesting of gas prices, the draft the was attempted to be passed, and bringing the troops back home?

    Are you speaking of just protests in general. Duders.......they're ALL over. Things like Marijuana, Drug laws in Mexico, Uganda child soldiers, and against the tobacco industry are just to name a few.
     
  14. Jim Colyer

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    Revolution is not the answer, stability is the answer. And work. I read a columnist this morning. He said the current anitwar movement is little more than a historical enactment of the 1960s and 70s. He is right. Because of 9/11, George Bush is justified in going after Muslim fanatics.


    U.S. PRESIDENTS http://jimcolyer.com/papers/entry?id=50
     
  15. tculi

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    there are lots of protests in my town and i have been to many of them
    i do know what you are saying most kids that go to my school are mtv babies and are not aware of whats going on around them, or they just dont care because they are heartless
     
  16. QuestionEvrything

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    I have to agree ,at least in my area. " i did an article on student actvisim for my school paper and basically nobody has fought back asgaint anything worthwhile in 20 years
     
  17. Mr.MusicHead222

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    Look i know all of YOU know about all the bad things the goverment are doing. But most of america doesnt know shit about it. Not saying that alot of people arent doing anything, but you guys arent getting me, im talking about alot more people, not just the intelligent informed ones. The only thing they know is what the T.V. news says (if they even watch that). so lets say the draft started up again, everyone would know it, and ALOT of people would be pissed.
     
  18. Trin

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    You seem like you don't have a clue about what all is up, yo. Maybe it's 'cause you have a lot of wealth and therefore would have lots to lose in the case of a revolution? The kids in here seem to have their finger on the pulse of what all is up, way more so than you ever could; yer screeching about Bush and his war seems pathetic.


    Trinity
     
  19. Rivalution

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    The biggest reason a revolution hasnt really started up in this country, isn't because it is too impersonal, but is because people are too busy fighting eachother to unite agianst the true enemy. We are too busy working with the sytem to break it. And just too plain scared to be loud and outragous. We don't need something horrable to happen to get people out in the streets, we need something wonderful to happen, UNITY! I mean so many people are working for the same cause....socialists, liberals, democrats, green party, ectect.. want to end this, if we wall worked together we could. Blacks, latinos, woman, immagrants, and gays have been fighting for equality since the beganing of time, and we still are! And that is because we find faults in eachother! and idiotic reasons to hate eachother! The two party sytem is just a tool of prejiduce used by the darkside..... And thats what has to go......
     
  20. Rev Van

    Rev Van Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Thomas Jefferson said that a nation should have a little revilution every now and then just to shake up the government.



    Maintaining a status quoe sounds great, but how can you a chieve this with a political party bent on big government, andd another one pushing big business.

    Who's going to speak for the 14,000,000 poor in this country?

    Who's going to speak out against the torture of people who "might" have information?



    When Sherman marched through Georgia, the confederate civilians upheld terrorist attacks against union troops.

    French underground fought against Greman occupation troops

    South Koreans disrupted north korean supply lines.

    Viet Cong soilders fought openly against CIA/American backer troops from the 1050's onward.

    Viet Cong disrupted French occuparion prior to 1950.



    Today we would call these people terrorist, but they are just fighting to save their homrlands fron foreign incursions.



    Our crime? Building military bases on Muslim holy land. Until we did that al kida didn't give us much of a thought.





    Military operations NEVER brought peace, only death.


    If you give government Card Blanc you diserve whatever you get, or lose.


    History has proven time and time again that peoples who hate each other will come together to defeat a common foe.


    The greatest revelution is that of non compliance. "Non cooperation with evil is a moral imparitive," Ghandi.
     

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