Hillbilly Habitat....

When this problem first began, their approach was...It's a done deal, sign on or leave.
It wasn't done then and it isn't a done deal now. There's a lot of people who don't know what to expect who need to know. How many people must be harmed before you decide to speak up?
When they negotiated by telling permanent community members that it's a done deal, sign on or leave, and then advertised for people to come join their groovy commune...That decisions were by consensus...that's insulting.

If you actually feel like their actions were correct and appropriate, I think you might be saying more about yourselves than the situation that I'm going through.

 

i never said there actions,, nor yours were correct or appropriatte..

please dont assume or put words in our mouths because you have such animosity for something that happenned over a year and a half ago..

ya get more flys with honey than vinegar..

seems thats all you have left in yer soul stone..

yer assuming we are taking sides when in no shape form or fashion are we..

an now ya showering us with yer vinager as well??

maybee yer correct,, peoples words do say a lot about themselves..

WE HOPE YOU FIND PEACE IN YOUR SOUL AN RESOLVE IN YOUR MIND SOON.. ITS JUST NOT HEALTHY TO CARRY SUCH EMOTIONS THIS LONG..

luv n lite..

 

My statement remains that people were harmed. When people don't speak up and insist that throwing us out of the homes that we built was wrong, I think that's about the same as saying that you agree with it.

If nobody warns the family that going there and committing their effort into the place might not be a wise use of their money and time, a lot more people could be harmed.

Do you honestly expect me to be talking sweet about losing something that I invested 15 years of effort and every dime I made into after I was thrown out rather than bought out? After having people tell me that they heard that NOBODY was thrown out?

I think that people need a warning. I can worry about getting peace in my soul when I know that other people have been warned. If we were given restitution, that would be good too.

 

then you my brother are blinded by your own hate..

so ya think thats where we are coming from huh?

oh me oh my im biting my tounge err fingers..

go fuck yourself stone,, fuck yourself agaiin an again..

fine thats what ya think.. dont ever expect any kynd words from me again..

holy shit you really know how to get under someones skin,, to bad the people your trying to get ,, are laughing at you..

how dare you assume anything because we aint sayin what ya wanna here..

fuck off..

 

now ...now thats not very rainbow there......

 

this aint a rainbow discussion..

actually this isnt a outdoor living discussion..

this is a communal living discussion,,..

one that because stone sees it as a rainbow discussion as well after 2 years,, an has no other outlet he sees fit to try an get sympathy from those who know of both parties..

ive never met stone,, ive met his old lady..
ive met very few from the place hes so vindictive of..

ive ,, we however have been beraded with his words since the day he was asked to leave..

ive never been there,, i know what i know from both sides,, mostly thru typin,, an as ive said the couple people involved i met..

not very rainbow??
on second thought..a good old fashioned rainbow fuck you has helped many a brother see the lite..

luvn lite..

 

I haven't heard any words of sympathy. Usually when someone loses their home, sympathy is offered rather than condemnation of the complaint.

It is a rainbow discussion, I found the community through rainbow, & the "community" has been looking for new members from the family.

Now as far as attracting with honey... That point would've been appropriate before people were thrown out of the homes they built.

I'm sorry that Hippy Hillbilly is so determined to prove me wrong for my complaints, that he allows himself to say the things he's saying. I think it says voloumes about how his visitors can expect to be treated.

Vindictive? Everybody was thrown out of the homes we built. Now I'm being called vindictive for feeling like others should be warned.

I think a fair warning to people is the only decent thing.

 

stone stone stone..

i am not determined to do anything but make you realise that we have no control over what you want to happen..

we are not going to speak bad of a place that weve never visited or a person weve never met..

if ya want to have a bitch fest,, then why not start a thread in communal living?
why are ya bitchin to us?

 

HOW OUR VISITORS WILL BE TREATED??

wtf?
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN HERE STONE? HAVE YOU MET ME OR DILLI?
NO..

ALTHOUGH WE DID MEET YOUR OLD LADY AT NATIONALS AN SHE WAS VERY SWEET AN KIND..

YOU ON THE OTHER HAND??

i sincerley hope this is not how you treat your visitors when they choose to remain neutral in a situation that they are not involved in directly..

luv n lite..

 

i do not feel sympathy for you , i do not know you, have never met you, i do not say things i do not meanto do so causes nothing more than dillusions n illusions that are better left uncreated.I understand that you have been hurt, it has not hurt me in any way shape or form. I can understand your hurt, everyone has felt hurt.I understand it causess you to have certain emotions however it is your emotions not mine. i am not involved therefore i can not place judgement, i have never met anyone else involved with this directly, therefore i can not pass judgement upon them either.If you can not understand this what i feel is a very basic moral and ethical stance on the whole situation then i once again for the second time today can not believe what society has become and it quite frankly really upsets me and pisses me off in a whole lot of ways....

yes i know your views on the whole situation, I have read it several times in various places. May i bring it to your attention however, this is the camping and outdoor living forum, not communal living, where you shoudl start a thread and be open to discussing your situation, however the other parties in your situation are not here , therefore once again i will say what i feel and tell you the names should not be mentioned. It is not right in any way shape or form in my opinion, this is your experience there, not anyone elses. There may have been others along with you that had the same sort of experience but that is there experience, they can speak for themselves, you cant tell others what they felt. Each person has the right to have there own experience anywhere and they should be allowed that without your feelings thrown into it.Has it happened to occur to you that others may go and enjoy something that you dont????

I dont know i was not there,, again i do not know you orthe others involved

This brother, pisses me the fuck off! HOW DARE you say how people would be treated here. YOU have NEVER met US or been here with us! THIS is exactly what this whole fukking lil tangent of yours has stemmed. THIS same thing!!!WE wont pass judgement on you or them because we do not know either of you and yet you come out with something like that.. That is called SLANDER or is that too difficult a word for you to be able to understand. How about defamation, is that easier ??
This has nothing to do with proving anyone right or wrong , it has to do with letting go of what is no more and moving on. Its called growing. Its called learning from our experiences. Its called moving forward.. It is not up to us to prove who is right and who is wrong. It has everything to do with not judging others without knowing them and without hearing the whole story. It is not up to me to judge that and quite frankly they have never hurt me or mine, so what is there for me to judge,,, a bitter mans story that i have read countless times and still have never met to actually talk to nor get to know other than the venom that is spewed all over the screen.... if thats what i had to judge a person by then said person would be outta my world because i have better things to do with my time instead of disputing what i feel is a really simple moral n ethical decision i have made

So i am supposed to feel sympathy toward people i do not know.I have explained this several times before.
Many people have lost everything they had in life, some several times over.People lose loved ones all the time. Its called life and we have to go on.When one can not get past the past it becomes something that grows and grows and consumes there very being until they are angry, bitter, venom spewing ol miserable codgers . One has to move on and forward stop looking at yourself as the victim and poor poor pitiful me. Some hoever like the victim role because in doing so they give up all responsibility and decision making , but hey to each there own.

I sincerely hope the best for you Stone, that you can let the past go and move forward with life and livin n luvvin. I hope that you can heal the hurt that you are feeling and release the anger you feel inside of you . Until then I am done wasting my energy and time rehashing the same pitiful me story. I have enough of my own issues i have to deal with and am no longer allowing myself to be dragged into yours, just keep in mind that at some point someones malicious, vindictive , slanderous words become another persons experience to pass along ...

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It is isn't it

 

So uhhhh.... any new pics on that cabin?

 

I'm sorry that you are unable to sympathize with someone who's just lost everything. Telling me to get over it does nothing toward helping me to make some kind of terms with a very deep and grievious loss. Telling me that my community is laughing about it is hardly a nice thing to say about it either. I trust that if you found yourself suddenly put out on the street with no place to get the problem discussed after investing 15 years of effort and every dime you made, you would be unhappy being in my shoes. You might also consider the irony, that for years visitors complained that I was the only person at my community who was doing any of the things expected at a hippy community.

I was very impressed with people building on the land and wanted to lend a voice of support as I've always done at my own community.

When my community suddenly disintegrated with the founder's son deciding that he could throw out everybody who'd invested their trust, time and money, it seemed the normal thing to let everybody know. To be met with condemnation and the other stuff that's been said on this thread seems irrational and beyond comprehension.

I cannot make you show compassion toward the world, that's true.

Peace
Stone

 

Went up to the life gathering and had to leave because of the bad vibes.Yonders Farm is a scam today.

 

that sux ghost,, sorry to hear something that shoulda been sweet werent...
luv n lite

 

Thanks Ghostcrab, people need to know what to expect. I've been praying & pleading for a voice of reason and instead, I hear stories about how things keep getting worse.

 

Your cabin is so cool. I really wish i could have volunteered a few days to help you out, but i am over in ireland, so it really would not have been feasable. Tell me if you guys ever hear of a project like this ever happening in ireland or britain (i know u probably wont, but maybe some1 will pm you looking for info).
Keep the flag flying
Peace and Love

 

we will and it still aint quite done,,,, so come on over n help when ya got a few hours...or better yet when ya one day visit the u.s.,,, (well if you ever desire a visit ) come n build one for us

 

dunno bout building one for you.... but if i am ever in the us i would love to HELP in the building, lol.
Community work=fun, but individual work= lazy bastard trying to scam me
Peace and Love

 

we aint lazy brother..

AN THATS THE LAST FUCKIN CABIN IM EVER VOULUNTEERIN TO UNDERTAKE FROM START TO FINISH!!

Luv~N~Lite

 

OH WOW That is such a cool cabin you are so lucky to have thought of that idea and to have actually gone through with it. I envy you so much and now i really want to go and build my own. Awesome work