Well, what is happening out there now days?

In the 60's I was told, third or fourth generation, "If it doesn't get into the press then it didn't happen."
People, I haven't heard anything since before this current Gulf War.
Sooo, come on hipsters, Let everyone know what's going on so that every one else can at least know and get some ideas for your own area.


Keep on trukin dudes...



Peace on you all.

 

No one cares anymore. The youth is bombarded with so much shit, that things that mean something(war) are being played off and sorted to where the true information is hard to decipher.
An underground network is in order, I believe.

 

It's dying - if you believe in justice
It's dying - and if you believe in freedom
It's dying - let a man live it's own life
It's dying - rules and regulations, who needs them

Open up the door
We can change the world

 

yeah. during the first gulf war george bush senior decried the end of newspapers, and because god was on his side, the end of newspapers arrived.
only commies printed them off anymore, and eventually most of the world forgot how to read.

 

So George H. decreed no more newspapers..... Well then, what was that thing the paper boy left on my door step this morning?


George bush senior was never president.... the last three generations of Bush goes something llikr this:

George H. W.
George H.
George W. (the coward)

 

Yeah, Bush Sr. kept the media out of the battles in the first gulf war. If anyone remembers, every night on the news you'd see the same reporter standing in the sand with absolutely nothing happening behind him, just desert. We didn't have the web back then either for alternative news.

For Iraq invasion II, they came up with something different, the embedded journalist. So you got to see some action but it was sanctioned and reviewed by the military before release. It was also a good way to put a Hollywood type production on an invasion and overthrow of another country. Recall all those scenes with the reporters riding along on the tops of tanks with the troops. A made for TV movie packaged to be palatable and entertaining to the American public.

Not to mention that in this most recent war, Dover is off limits, so the casualties can't be seen unless you find smuggled pics on the internet.

Recall also the clips that MSNBC was showing right after the Iraq invasion of the mothers and their cute little newborns while Daddy was away in Iraq. The host saying that Daddy is in Iraq to protect babies in the U.S. from the terrorists of 911. Another made for TV movie by the corporate networks aimed at trying to win over people to the Iraq invasion by charming them with scenes of little babies.

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1989-1993 President Bush Sr was in office

The World Wide Web is invented (1991) : anyone and everyone

By the end of the 1980s the European Particle Research Laboratory CERN in Geneva was one of the premier Internet sites in Europe. CERN desperately needed a better way of locating all the files, documents and other resources that now threatened to overwhelm it.

A young British scientist, Tim Berners-Lee, working as a consultant for CERN, had the answer. His 'World Wide Web' system assigned a common system of written addresses and hypertext links to all information. Hypertext is the organisation of information units into connections that a user can make, the association is called a link.

In October 1990 Berners-Lee started working on a hypertext graphical user interface (GUI) browser and editor. In 1991 the first WWW files were made available on the Internet for download using File Transfer Protocol (FTP).

By 1993 the world was starting to wake up to the World Wide Web. In October that year there were around 200 known HTTP servers. Within a year there would be thousands.

May 1994 saw the first International WWW Conference - at CERN in Geneva. The event was heavily oversubscribed, with 800 applying to attend and only 400 allowed in.

By now the load on the first Web server at CERN was 1,000 times what it had been three years earlier

BBS boards were far abroad for years before that, AOL, Prodigy and Compuserve were very much active in the early 80's.

So maybe you were ignorant as to the use and functions of computers back then but some of us were quite able to function before point and click took over to simplify so idiots could use a computer too.

AOL was founded in 1985
Compuserve was founded in 1969
Prodigy was founded in 1980

The reason there was a media shut out during the gulf war is the dorks had releases locations of our troops and it cost some lives. This has been done in past wars too, the press has got our family members killed by reporting a story too soon. So yup media shut downs is a wise idea at times.

 

You US lot have gotta stop relying so much on presidency and enjoy what you've got - ok I'm from britain - thats maybe.... a quarter of the size of Carolina? - Youv'e a big country with alotta differnet rules.But follow frank zappa - think indepently.

Now you can all kill me

 

i think that once other young people have thier comforts takin away from them they will ACT. everyone is so unconditionally supported in whatever they do they feel like the can constantly be pleased with anything they do. and in reality they arent doing anyhting that matters. they are just a waste of paint.
while the people who do go out and do things are shit upon and get a sentence in the news paper/ broadcast.

 

you mean a kid with a tv, dvd, computer, car, numerous clothes and shoes, movies, cd's. stereo system, mp3, digital camera, money for misc and has all this and no job is NOT having a tough life? Well holly crap, they think they have it bad. One of America's biggest problems is we have so much waste, a typical American home will have 3 tv's 3 dvd players, 2 computers, 2 cars, a boat or rv, and a garage full of shit they dont use. We waste so so much and I do it too!

 

i thought that sarcasm was too obvious to miss.

you must be a lot dumber than the average person.

 

maybe you're looking for www.protest.net ?

 

Thats why they are fat. in the 60s,70s,80s people would do more outside recreation like riding dirtbikes ,atv, boating, swiming, jetski etc , going to the races and walk around a lot "most of those toys are way too expensive this day", so they sit by 1 of those 3 tv or pc and watch or play "on the couch" and run back and forth to the fridge .

 

And they come back winded from that trip holding a twinky, a bag of chips and a pop. I mean Im a pretty big guy and all but I walk alot, have to, no one wants you to park close to thier place with a 73 foot long truck, I have unloaded my cargo lots of times, some heavy some light. I know I could not run no race and all but alot of these kids I could out work any day and its a damn shame. Parents need to kick thier ass outside for a few hours a day.

 

Up here in Canadia we had a succesful protest and there will be one less parking lot in a Old Growth Forest! I think community and worldwide support was a key a factor in the win, cause that was huge.

These days folks are holding down the fort just outside Vancouver BC cause the goverenment (once again) wants to kiss some olympic ass and build everybody a big fat road over Eagle Ridge Bluff...car culture...grumble...

Also in New Caladonia Ontario there's a major standoff between the Six Nations and the government and god bless them these warriors AIN'T BACKIN DOWN! You can find more info by doing a search on any of these things. The Six Nations blockade has inspirsed solidarity demo's all over the country. I hear they also need supplies out there mainly food...there's a message board out there somewhere in computer land where the Six Nations are posting these things...

With a rebel yell
Heron

 

That's how it is with everything. People(as a whole) will ONLY act once they are personally affected by something. What they need to realize is that sometimes once something is affecting you, it's too late to change it (ie, trashing the environment, letting the government do what it wants to us, etc.). That makes this whole war situation so frustrating to me. It was "acceptable" until soldiers started dying regularly, friends went off to fight, and oil prices started going up again. Never mind the people WE kill; they don't directly affect anyone here, so that was never a factor in why the war is now unacceptable to most people. How screwed up...

~Nova

 

Yeah that's the truth. It becomes a burden that keeps us preoccupied and draws our attention away from more important issues.

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I assume you weren't around in the early 90s or were very young. FTP was available back then but not www hypertext which came around 1994. It took a couple of years after 1994 for the web to get into full gear. (BTW, the hypertext idea goes all the way back to the 60s but didn't get fully implemented until the 90s)

In any event, this is a side issue. The govt manipulates the media as best it can to its own advantage.

 

No. I have an advanced degree in electrical engineering and have built microprocessor systems from scratch. BBS and FTP were useful but cumbersome compared with hypertext. Nothing is comparable to hypertext in terms of the general public being able to communicate easily with each other.

 

im just saying that most people my age right now will hear of an acquantance from high school getting killed or seriously injured and all they will do is say thats fucked up and not really do anything about it. im talking more along the lines of something else. like direct loss of rights or the general sense of freedom that most people experience. thier sense of blissful ignorance i guess im trying to say.
i dont think that the fact that people dying in a war should be upsetting. thats what happens in a war.
i think that people should focus thier anger about the whole thing more on what the war stands for and the lies that it has been built on.