Worship

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Idiotic panic, May 4, 2006.

  1. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    Why must we worship god, do what he tells us what to do ( the 10 comanments sp?) and if we don't we go to hell! God gave us freewill and there was a war in heaven because of it, we should be abull to be greedy, lustful etc which out going to hell!

    What do you lot thing of this?
     
  2. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like messing around with christian ideas to, the best one is that christian's worship jesus and mary (I think) and god said only worship me. So everyone worships jesus and mary will go to hell. lol
     
  3. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ummm, according the nicene councils Jesus posseses divinity, hence he is God, hence you worship him if you believe. Mary (or any of the other saints) in the eyes of Orthodox and Catholic Christians aren't worshiped, they are venerated. Saints are perceived as living in heaven and are asked to pray on yuor behalf to god for whatever reason you ask them to. Also they can perform post humous miracles through God.
     
  4. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, because God is "omni-max" as Libertine calls him he could technically alter his own powers to be able to create such a rock by weakening himself.

    Do you refer to Jesus? Well although the body is different (between the Father and the Son) the essence is the same: God's divine essence. The suffering and death (according to Christian tradition) which leads to the ressurection which is the basis for humankind's salvation is out of love for all people.
     
  5. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Messages:
    6,514
    Likes Received:
    4
    Can someone please define for me what "worship" means? I mean, what does that really entail?
     
  6. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Haha, you do have me there :D I will admit I stole what I posted from a wikipedia article I read a while back about the omni-max paradox (the rock/burrito paradox) I can't fully rememebr if it was that god could change his powers and that was the answer, but I do rememerb that being one of the arguments.

    Ok, I was ust adding that for, well, a "paper trail" if you want to call it that so I woudln't have to explain later if someone didn't know that

    Ok, so it seems what FedUp posted was funny? I always hate to have jokes explained to me, but i think I am missing out on this one
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    25

    :D
     
  8. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    Worship \Wor"ship\, v. i. To perform acts of homage or adoration; esp., to perform religious service

    Burbot is jesus the son of god or not?
     
  9. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh, ok. Probobly lost oms of its funny cause it was expained, but it is witty none-the-less.

    I believe so.
     
  10. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    Quote:Jesus posseses divinity, hence he is God, hence you worship him if you believe.

    if he was the son of god, then how can he be god?
     
  11. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Within Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a communion of three persons (personae, prosopa): Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty); the Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth); and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" or "hypostases," share a single Divine essence, being, or nature.

    Tanekn from :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
     
  12. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    o.k so jesus is god, not the son of god. Weird? thanks burbot
     
  13. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    but he is the Son of God
     
  14. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    so he is the son of god, but he is also god himself? right?
     
  15. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    so he is the son of god, but he is also god himself? right?
     
  16. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

    Messages:
    11,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    sactly--

    you see a lot of these: [​IMG] when people try and explain the trinity concept

    "god himself" is misleading because depends on which sect you follow God may be incorpreal or corpreal (i do believe)
     
  17. Idiotic panic

    Idiotic panic Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    0
    so god is all of the them (father, the son and the spirit) that makes sence. I think?
     
  18. roly

    roly Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,619
    Likes Received:
    0
    this is a question that i cannot fathom fully and no one ever will on earth. EVER. we can only give an opinion. Here is mine: i think that God gave humans free will so that we would not live like a manipulated puppet. Although some may argue that we are still manipulated by God as he is controlling us with the threat of Hell, i think that God wanted us to enojy making the decisions of life ourselves. To have the UPS and the DOWNS.I dont know about anyone else here, but some of the most character building experiences in my life were when i made BIG mistakes. Free will not only allows mistakes, but it also allows, Freedom (obviously, clues in the question lol) and growth, learning, soul searching and a much more lived life than if we had of lived in Eden in ignorance and puppeteered by God. Also i think that the reason that GOd tells us of hell is to WARN us that there is the force of Satan at work too...and that non-union with God means that you can easily slip more into union with the Devil ( i am in no way saying that if your not with God that you are with Satan, but rather you are succeptible to Satan).

    But thats just my two cents as it were. I will never know whilst im still here on Earth, and thats just fine with me.
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice