How do old hippies feel about feminism, & civil rights?

I never asked you not to. No problem. I just want to get to the bottom of the issues to see what the feminist movement has completely fucked up on. How else can anything change? People have to communicate to even begin.

 

im sure if yer willin they will..

im perty sure, it starts with leavin the cut an paste shit out..

they a bit more intellectual than that..

luv n lite..

 

After we got everyones attention with womens rights, things did get better for us.. bc we grew a backbone, not bc anyone handed anything to us.
It was the season of the witch..It was the season where the Goddess returns to the throne beside God. They took the Goddess from us and stuck all women in the background. They shoved us down under their feet in the name of god saying we were below man, to be placed under his thumb not by his side. For three thousand yrs the Goddess was imprsoned. Still we prayed to her we never lost faith that she would return to us. Well She's Back!! Our prayers were answered and she is now back on the throne.
Within the next ten yrs there will be a woman running the presidency. Things will turn around and get right cuz mama knows best.

 

We don't need no stinkin' movement. We run our homes and we raise our kids and teach them to be good people. If the women would wake up and see they hold the power to be themselves they would grow in esteam and not be so downtrodden. If your getting walked on it's bc your laying down. If your getting knocked down, well that's against the law and one could be fined or imprisoned.

The thing about being a woman is, the sterio-typical jacket she was forced to wear.. the stepford wives snydrom. That's what freeked me out about my first marriage in 66.. well I knew right away that it was not for me.. at least marriage to him was not going to work.

I could not see myself being sanctioned off to sit in a dank dark apt watching soap operas, spittin' out babies till I died. Just sitting there all day.. Gawd it was maddening.. After he beat me up for taking some LSD, while I was on LSD, I became aware that this was not the life for me and no woman should have to endure it. This was my/his mothers life not mine. I danced to a different beat. I danced all the way to Haight Street with flowers in my hair the next day.

I met a lady as I sat on the stoop next to Love Burgers. She was sitting by her window that looked out on Haight Street. In her lap lay a Twelve String, she was playing softly and huming a tune as she smiled down at me on the stairs.
After a while I was huming too. Time passed, the hours went by, me on the stairwell and she in the window. I had finely got enough nerve to pull out my own guitar and we played together and I learned her song
It was a song of love and trust, a tale of change in the coming. A lesson in strenght and fortitude, readying herself for the show that was begening now.
She taught me well, what I went through then made me ready to face what was to become my life for many many yrs. She took a 16 yr old girl and taught her how to be a woman, not in a sexual way, but a human being way. She taught me about equaility and justice and the right to be who I wanted to be.
Even from her wheelchair you could hear her voice above the rest and she wheeled her way through the crowds at the women rights rallies in the middle sixties.. I was there by her side protecting her red curly head from being bashed in with a knightstick or some irrate husband spitting in her face.
We wrote songs together and sang on the hill for five yrs or so untill she moved to Oregon in 71'. Her name was Sister Juniper Odd and she traveled with her small son Steffan and her man Herb. She is an Icon to me, a fascinating woman and the one that taught me to use my head. She must be in her 70's by now or close to it.

I never liked organizations, like religion and things of that nature. Somehow they always end up on a political front. I just know what is right and what is wrong, I seen enough and been through enough to last ten life times. I've paid my dues.

We do get tired of people coming in and setting us up to take pot shots at us...

 

On the fem thing, I don't think I agree with all their methods but they fight for our rights and get laws passed in our favor and keep us from losing what rights we do have. So, they do their job. They get people to LISTEN!!

 

Is 'I come in Peace. I have not come to argue. I am simply a messenger delivering a message.' your quote? It seems familar. So do your statements. Why don't you search Juniper Odd out and express some gratitude to her? What do you think about NOT relying on the system to change laws in favor of women and changing your own life in favor of you?
'Get down off the cross, we need the wood' - Georgia Engstrom

Stay committed to your decisions, but stay flexible in your approach. -Tom Robbins
Stay flexible in both your decisions and approach. - Honor Seed

Love that 'cut and paste' painted cow skull hippiehillbilly

' I ain't living life in the slow lane, I've been parked at this rest stop for the last decade ' - Honor Seed

"The answer is never the answer. What's really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you'll always be seeking. I've never seen anybody really find the answer-- they think they have, so they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer."
-- Ken Kesey

 

Your statements are why my sig says what it does. It's my quote, iffin' ya don't like my peaches don't shake my tree.

I don't need anybody talking for me.. as you can see I can Talk for myself. But there are some that can't so we need the warriors for them. Which are you?!?

If you just came in to take potshots at me, don't bother, your only pointing one finger at me while the other fingers are pointing back at yerself. Or if ya want we can dance, I'm open..

 

dances just like Ginger Rodgers...

 

its funny here i am.......a 17 year old living on the other side of the world.......listening to you talk about feminism and womens rights.......and what i notice is that your age is 55 but you were married in 66 which means you were married at 14 or 15..........the world is a funny place

 

If I was an old hippie....I think I would say that Womens' Right should be considered Civil Rights. Civil Rights are a good thing, aren't they? That is what I would say...isn't it? LOL

Oh, I love you people so. Please don't hurt me.....

 

Ohh.. I can dance, just like nobodys watching. That's how I made my money in the 60's I danced at the Follies on Mission St. I was a Follies Dolly. Heh Heh

I was married at 16 and divorced at 16. I went from my abusive hubsand to Hyw 101 aka Pacific Coast Hyw North to San Fransico with a black eye and flowers in my hair. Nothing funny about that.

 

Well, we still have problems.
Ellie Smeal was working to get women in office and into more prominent jobs. Obviously, that has helped a great deal. It got started and that ball kept rolling.
We make up around 47% of the workforce yet still earn 24% less than men. Stats from the un women watch site...
There are issues of domestice violence, rape..yes, real actual rape still occurs..Women's healthcare, which has significantly improved since back when they only tested drugs on men. There is still some headway to be made.

About illegal immigration..Let's please seperate that from affirmative action since they are not the same issue.
My take on the rather enormous problem of illegal immigration is that you'd have to go after the companies that are hiring them...This has nothing to do with feminism.

Abortion.

I'm not overly thrilled with the fact that feminist organizations have attached themselves onto an issue like affirmative action. It's a damn shame if the rest is being ignored over that.

 

Now, nobody likes abortion. It's an unsavory issue. However, shit happens.
I do not want to hear of restrictions tight enough to force a young girl to ask her sexually abusive father whether or not she can abort his unborn child.
Or, a woman being denied the option NOT to carry a rapists child to term. These are extreme cases, of which there are few...
A woman that does not want to have a baby is liable to try anything to be rid of it. It has played itself out in our history before. With great risk to the mother's lives, & the lives of their unborn babies to boot, should they actually survive a botched procedure. There is great risk of infection, & severe complications.
We are fighting for the right to our own bodies. The idea that most American women take abortion lightly, & would have it done whimsically, is rather silly.

 

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