An Apology and A Tip (To Newbies)

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Peace, Jul 25, 2004.

  1. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    I want to make an apology to the typers (and readers) of this Marijuana Forum. I am sorry about being a dick lately. I guess sometimes I just get pissed off :(.

    But here's a tip that is useful that most newbies and some experienced smokers might not know. If you are tweaking (you trip on psycadelics and "tweak" on amphetamines) and you smoke marijuana :))) you probabaly will not get that high. I am not sure the scientific reason but I can put it in my own words. Cannabis :))) is a "downer" and Adderall, Adderall XR, Ritalin, Conserta and other amphetamines are "downers". To put it simply, it's hard to go up and down at the same time.

    Have a nice night (and day),
    Peace [​IMG]
     
  2. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    I don't think bud is a depressant; it speeds up your heartbeat afterall.
     
  3. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    i think thc is an upper and the cannibinols are downers. if not they're both downers.
     
  4. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    Well I use to know why smoking when tweaking was bad when school was still going. The reason is because I smoked a lot, but I would get some Adderall XR's from this guy. But this one time I was tweaking (from Adderall XR's) and I had boughten this uber delicious quarter of nice little orange rocks. Well they were nice and desne like rocks :). Well I was tweaking and I went outside at lunch to smoke and all it did was shorten the length of my tweak and lessen the intensity. Please note that I'm not sure if it's the same with speed (methamphetamine) or ecstasy.

    But there is one thing I would like to add here. When you're coming down from a tweak you sometimes feel shitty, sad or emotionless. This is a good time to smoke. Since you're coming down the amphetamine isn't as strong and the cannabis dominates.

    You don't have to listen to my advise if you don't want to, but I have learned this from first hand experience and this girl who knows a lot about pills.

    Have a nice night or day :).
    Peace [​IMG]
     
  5. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    i think its really stupid thinkning of drugs as uppers or downers. its much more complex than that. rahter, everyone should have more knowlege of neurotransmitters like seratonin and dopamine, and also understand that cannabinoids are a group of themselves.

    heaps of poeple think weed is in teh same class of drug as alcohol. it pisses me off.
     
  6. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    I don't even consider bud to be a drug; I mean, it comes right off a plant. It's a herb god dammit!
     
  7. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    Well I think it helps people remeber. A lot of people say they "hallucinate" off of magic mushrooms (psilocyban) or acid, but like EllisDTripp (is it one or two P's at the end?) posted once the defintion of an hallucination is a visual change that the person thinks is real. Because we know that the visuals we see on mushrooms are fake, technically it's not a hallunation. I refer to it has a uper or downer because I percieve a downer to be a drug that gets you mellowed out, tired, or calmer where as I think an upper is a drug that makes you more energetic and incrediably happy. An example is that you're not always uber happy on pot but you can get sad easily and it kind of makes you calm and I use it to help me sleep where as amphetamines like Adderall XR makes me incrediably happy, incrediably nice, and I know that I couldn't sleep while tweaking.

    I guess what I was saying earlier is think of it this way. I'll rephrase it without the terms "uppers" or "downers". Pot makes you tired where as Adderall XR makes you not tired. That shows that they're kind of opposite in some ways. I know when I have smoked while tweaking it seems like they just counter act each other. Now if I was coming down from my tweak then smoked this would be different.

    I hope you can figure out what I'm trying to say :).
    Peace (insert sign of peace here to symbolize my belief on the issue of violence, please note that I am passive, but at times I can be "passive-aggressive". Thank You)
     
  8. Purple Haze

    Purple Haze Member

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    It's true that while tweaking you are usually hyperactive....and that weed calms you down and mellows you....but sometimes smoking while on "uppers" help...since the come down of aphetamines are so cruel and depressing having a blunt or two in hand while ease out the effects of the aftermaths...now smoking while on tweaking....I suggest smoking first then tweaking...cause if you smoke first it stimulates a bit the effect of the "uppers" and helps lower down the amount of the dose....similar to the usage of K and while on E.....



    But also sometimes "uppers" can cause the total oppisite of the nick that it has...it can sometimes become a "downer"...depending on the mood or the state of mind that you are at when you do them...in that case I suggest just not doing anything....or maybe since you are already on something when you begin to feel the downing effects to just talk it out and after a while smoke a blunt and hyper yourself up a bit and do another dosage...then you'll get the opposite effect of the first and enjoy the true effects of tweaking.....it's similar to the usage of e....it's all related really...you just have to know yourself and experiment...then you'll know what works for you or not....
     
  9. aesther

    aesther Member

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    Hah, tweaking is for real speed not shit like adderal :p
     
  10. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    They are both amphetamines buddy boy. In fact just like Adderall, methamphetamine is a perscription drug for people with ADD or ADHD.
     
  11. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    ive never been unhappy with weed, and it sometiems gives me heaps of energy. you cant generalise the effects of weed, they are too diverse. sometimes when i smoke good sativa, i cant sit still and i need to run aorund like crazy and im almost always happy, except when i get a bit bored or over passionate, but ive never got -sad-.

    and whoever says weed sint a drug caus it comes straight form teh plant is kidding themself, so does opium, crude cocaine, and heaps of hellucinagens. i recognise mos tppl say it in jest but i think some actualyl believe that marijuana shouldnt be classed as a drug...
     
  12. Purple Haze

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    that's right...;) ..
     
  13. AnarchistScott

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    I donno, I once got really high then tried salvia. The cannabis made the trip last alot longer and it made my high alot better and more uplifting. Everytime I hallucinated I just broke into laughter. It was really cool. I deffinetly suggest trying salvia when stoned to boost your high and make it more entertaining
     
  14. 7leafclover

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    Thats not true at all. I do alot of ritalin and always am smoking at the same time, and Ive never failed to get high.
     
  15. MsAmazo

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    i don't do drugs.. i smoke pot.

    and salvia.. why? pot's way better.. salvia tastes like ass.

    :)
     
  16. AnarchistScott

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    true it dos taste like shit but after u get over the taste its all good from then on.....
     

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