Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

mayne, i just aw someones first post

 

Please elaborate. What exactly do you mean by "child abduction" and "sexual relations without legal age restraints" ?

Are you suggesting (correct me if I am wrong) that one of the poll options should have been that pedophilia is not a disorder, but something perfectly natural for some humans?

I would like to hear your opinion, because we need all areas of opinion in this discussion.

 

Hey Libertine. Looks like you're getting some very well thought out replies here.
You know what I think. So, I just popped in to say "great thread".

 

I'm not an expert on this matter & for the most part my opinion on this subject is still a work in progress .


To target a child , abduct them & then do x y or z to them is not the same , for example as a group of like minded individuals who for whatever reason agree to permitting each other have sexual relations with each others offspring .


One is just plain anti social & while a lot of people may think the other is absolutely shocking it is however at least civilized & no matter how you might disagree with the practice due to your moral or religious beliefs it is difficult to label it as anti social & therefore difficult to whole heartedly agree that society should be permitted to punish those involved in that particular lifestyle .

Its not my place to tell you what you should of put up for the vote but it is perhaps an excellent topic for a future thread , instead of berating yourself for what this particular one could of contained .


My suggestion was nothing other than what I have typed above but now that you have asked the question I can only answer that If a person was born into a particular lifestyle then I cant fathom how anything other than that lifestyle could be anything but unnatural to them , Be they a Bible Bashing Catholic an Anti Christian Pagan , Buddhist or whatever . I guess thats why one mans poison will always remain another mans pleasure.

I think the real question here is where Government will stop intruding upon us who employ them & how we can prevent their hand in glove manipulation of media events to rob us of our natural rights as human beings.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

I'm not too crazy about the choices. I know what "deviation from norm" behavior is all about. In some places and certainly at earlier times, the course of the objects of my affection would have landed me in prison. Fortunately we live in somewhat more civilized times... well, except for Wyoming.

I think of a pedophile as one who is haunted by a fetish that doesn't seem to ever be satisfied. I suppose you could learn to focus energy elsewhere. Highly unlikely however. As far as I can tell, a pedophile's hopeful outcome with therapy and drugs would be self-abuse with mental fantasies only. I'd wish that this person might be able to enjoy a physical intimate relationship with a person of his or her own age, but I am highly doubtful of that.

Pedophiles, btw, are not just old priests. Perhaps you have heard of the female school teachers who impose themselves on boys they teach. Somehow the world doesn't look at that as quite so awful. When I think of the women teachers whom I had had in my life, that sounds like somethat that would have definitely scarred me for life !

 

I think they are sick & evil.

 

I think I get your drift and I have considered it as well. Just not in this poll.

Culture and history tell many stories that would be appalling to today's society.

 

I agree.

Well, many of the drugs that could possibly be "life changing" rather than a constant chemical fix (most of today's prescription drugs) are currently illegal. Those psychoactive substances that could lead one to chemical change without the addictiveness of the current legal psychiatric drugs may be part of the answer to aid with therapy (I'm thinking the proper controlled use of LSD and a therapeutic guide)--not just drugged up and fucked up.

 

i agree wit libertine

 

It's funny that even CHRIS HANSON from DATELINE NBC: To Catch A Predator has even stated he feels sorry for some of those people.

I believe it to be a psychological compulsion myself.

 

I dont belive in murder under any circumstances, but I do belive that they all need some serious help.

 

I am really surprised that the poll seems to lean more towards the progressive methods than the emotional rage type "justice".

Very interesting for my study.

 

i voted 1

 

Well, so did I, of course.

 

When in Hawaii,I spent some time in the library.They had many very nice books about the islands of the South Pacific and I came across one about the island(s) of Raivavae.I think I spelled this right --it's been 32 years--anyway the polynesians there were very ahamed to talk about one of their customs that was part of their culture before civilization came.The writer finally got a few folks to relate how the grandmothers were responsible for the sexual education of the little boys as they grew up,and the grandfathers were likewise responsible for the little girls.They intimated that the education was COMPLETE,with all that that implies.So obviously ,there was no such condition as pedophelia and probably no molestation.If ,in the case of this being accepted as right in their isolated society,then I guess when the islands were discovered by the outside world,the discoverers were were suitably shocked.-------------------------(this is scratcho on a friends machine)------

 

Yes. I think culture has a lot to do with this particular subject (and many others as well).

Back, even in America, in the farms and fields days, girls as young as 13 or 14 were being married and having children--lots of them.

Even in the 60s and 70s some of this was going on in some states, but the paranoia of the 80s and 90s (even into today) has gotten A.O.C. laws to where some states consider a 16 year old a "victim" of consensual sex. This trivializes TRUE child molestation, I think.

Statutory rape is a bullshit law and has nothing to do with pedophilia.

I still think pedophilia is a disorder, but some will disagree either way. But, hell that's what this thread is for!

 

What is evil?

I say that their behavior is more harmful than beneficial, but I don't regard things in the terms "good" and "evil".

 

Good to see someone else understands that.

 

I have an interview with the D.A. coming up next week and this is one of the questions I am going to address.

I believe he sees the "statutory rape" law as being as controversial as I do.

 

Sick or evil matters not...kill the scumbags...their value in this world is nought...and they are a threat to the children of the world and are deserving of the most painful and slowest death that the imagination can dream of....and my opinion any body that stands up in support of these twisted fucks are deserving of the same