Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by Libertine, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. Alternative_Thinker

    Alternative_Thinker Darth Mysterious

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    In that case, I'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope I'd never run into you offline. :p
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    With that type of thought process, what makes you any better than them?

    Slow, painful death? Do you want to be the executioner, then?

    :confused:
     
  3. Zodiac

    Zodiac Member

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    ha ha killing peeple? wot do you no about that??????? ha hahaah
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Indeed. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Zodiac

    Zodiac Member

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    wot about pedo activistz??
     
  6. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Well, that exists obviously.

    I suppose these organizations don't see it as a disorder or an evil.

    Organizations like NAMBLA? Is that what you are referring to?
     
  7. Zodiac

    Zodiac Member

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    yes

    it iz a groop to pro pedo
     
  8. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Yes, they promote pedophilia in what they call "Manboy love" or something to that effect.

    I personally think pedophilia is a disorder, so I don't agree with such organizations pushing for it to be legal.
     
  9. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I would like to know if anyone in the HF takes the stance of this being neither a disorder or an evil.

    I doubt anyone would say though. This subject is very stigmatized. Even for debate.
     
  10. lankymidget

    lankymidget Worlds Tallest Dwarf

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    Neither?

    If you mean that we suppress urges that are more instinctual than natural, I mentioned that early in your thread..

    Individual minds don't really set the rules and laws, but once made and accepted, our mind thinks at least a little before acting on our urges.

    Whether we can point to specific reasons why society deemed that age limits needed to be set or not, I guess we could look and find some (strangely by past standards) horrific stories.. Yet, in some way, this behaviour wasn't clamped down on until relatively recently..

    So, not a disorder nor an evil?

    But a suppressed instinct?


    Have I become radical?
     
  11. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Yes, that is rather odd. It seems that only within the past few decades has this has been regarded as a major social problem. It would be interesting to find out exactly how that came about.

    I remember my grandmother telling me about her being married (back in the fields & farming days) at age 14 and baring her first child at 16. My grandfather was 20 when they married. I guess if he'd been placed in prison, I probably wouldn't be here. :D
     
  12. heron

    heron Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    my grandfather had a friend back in the day who married a 12 year old, and it was fine. Said she would be playing with dolls when he got home from work.
     
  13. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    *lol*...sorry, I suppose that's not supposed to be funny.

    That doesn't surprise me, though. Like I said, my grandmother was 14 and I know of at least a handful of others that were 15 and under. It was no biggie back then, but now those same men would be considered "sexual predators" with likely jail time and a photo and history on an eternal sex registry.

    I think America is a little too paranoid. I mean I don't believe in 12 year olds marrying, but I do think that the sex laws in this nation are too vague and draconian.

     
  14. nayanrajeev

    nayanrajeev Member

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    sick and they should be locked
     
  15. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    I think there are two different kinds; pedophiles and sexual assaulters and I think people who like kids are truley mentally sick and those who want to hurt people by using sex as violence are evil. I was molested when I was about 6 by a teenage boy in our apartment complex he was really emotionaly unstable and I think he truley had an illness. Those who use sex as violence or power are really evil. I was just writting about sexual assault and in my research I found that kids who are molested by somone close to their family are 10 times as likley to commit suicide as kids who are molested by casual encounters or strangers. To know somone and pretend to love them and gain their trust and then assault them that way is evil as oppossed to somone not being able to helpo themselve's-that is just sick
     
  16. heron

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    I dont think its a disorder or evil, but just a sick attraction. How would you treat it if it were a disorder? and evil is relative.

    Homosexually is completly repulsive to some, whos to say.

    I can say its sick, but thats just me.
     
  17. DeadieHeatherBear

    DeadieHeatherBear Member

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    being a victim myself i know that its a combination of both things... but also many more that make up their twisted and disgusting personalities
     
  18. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    I think it depends on the pedophile, if an adult is attracted to children and cant help the feelings they get but make a constant effort to never hurt a child or to never look at kiddie porn etc. they are just sick.

    If an Adult however feels these same feelings and doesnt care what harm they can cause and chooses to molest children, they are Evil or Evil and sick.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  19. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone though pedophilia does. you can't compare adult consentsual sex to touching an unsuspecting child.
     
  20. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Exactly.

    See, I don't even believe in "evil".

    I see it as religious terminology to describe something that most people find repulsive.

    But, I don't see the world in black & white. I see it in various colors.

    Situation...circumstances are everything. There are things that are "harmful" and "beneficial" in certain settings. There are things that are "healthy" and "unhealthy". I see pedophila as "unhealthy". I see non-consensual and/or coercive sex acts as "harmful".

    But, "evil" is just a band aid term people use to ignore a problem and ignore the causes of it.

    It's easier for the weak-minded to just say "that (whatever it may be) is evil".
     

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