George Bush is a giant

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by Jim Colyer, Apr 5, 2006.

  1. MikeE

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    The concensus subjective opinion of experts is valuable. (If nothing else, it gives a common referance point.) But it remains subjective.

    (BTW, Russian historians would give a different answer than 1939.)
     
  2. Inquiring-Mind

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    so?
     
  3. MikeE

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    The start date of WWII is subjective, not objective. The date of particular invasions, battles, etc. are objective, but "when did it become a war", "when did it become a world war" are subjective. Western experts have come to agreement that Sep 22, 1939 is the Oficial Start of WWII. But that is the subjective opinion of experts, not an objective fact.

    Indeed the start of a battle is not so objective as I suggested. "Is the reconnisance (sp?) part of the battle?" and other questions show that on historical questions, "subjective" and "objective" are a matter of emphasis and the level of detail of the question under study.
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

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    Don't experts form objective facts based on their studies and such?

    The opinions of experts are objective fact until proven otherwise......
     
  5. MikeE

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    Experts form their opinions (subjective) based on studies and such.. I would ask an expert whether their opinion should be considered objective or subjective. They are the only ones who know the certitude with which they hold their opinions.
     
  6. streamlight

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    Wow, I thought people who enjoyed peace and love were supposed to help people if they think they have confused views, the man is patriotic, he's proving a point that this is America, and if you live here, this is the flag that represents your land, I respect this man, I know people who say they hate America and love other countries, yet they stay here, if you hate something, give it up, if you hate America, leave, if you hate your job, quit. This man loves his country, and he is here to say that, so if you call him dumb, or ignorant, look at yourself, because insulting him for that is truly dumb.
     
  7. Libertine

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    Fuck Bush.

    He is the worst President in history.
     
  8. streamlight

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    He's definitely not the worst ever.
     
  9. dudenamedrob

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    I'd like to see you point out an amerikan "president" who has commited more world wide atrocities than Bush.

    It is true that many men, women, and children stand behind Bush. Many naieve, brainwashed, men, women, and children.

    No disrespect meant, but the original poster seems to be an idyllic symbol of a bushy: baby boomer, WHITE, anti-freedom of choice, and living in the Bible Belt, not just in the Bible Belt, but the country music capital of the world..........I don't usually perpetuate stereo-types but this one was just too good to pass up :)
     
  10. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Name one that was worse!

    George Bush spews his rhetoric about spreading "freedom" and constantly continues spreading "freedom" here in the U.S. through spying, limiting of civil liberties, sending the young to die, perpetrating a civil war in Iraq (and ideologically in America), ignoring allied concerns, censoring dissent, ignoring FISA and the Geneva Convention, starting a preemptive, unilateral war on a nation who neither attacked us nor threatened us, putting corporate interests above public interests, misinforming Americans about reasons of the war, about New Orleans' disaster relief and constantly condescending those who disagree with him because they "have a right to their opinion", but he is "RIGHT"-- "GOD TOLD HIM TO DO IT!"

    And that's only the tip of the iceberg... :rolleyes:

    Bush is a fucking human disaster. He consistently and blatantly breaks the law and has committed the worst CONSTITUTIONAL violations of any American President in history. (*including Nixon)
     
  11. dudenamedrob

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    but don't forget Libertine...........he's "THE DECIDER" :)
     
  12. streamlight

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    That's your opinion.

    I believe Buchanan and Hoover were worst than Bush.
     
  13. Libertine

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    Buchanan and Hoover never did HALF the stuff Bush did.

    They mostly just DIDN'T do what they should have.
     
  14. streamlight

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    Well, considering on the Buchanan the U.S. split in two, thats pretty bad, and Hoover did nothing to change problems during the depression. But like I said, opinions.
     

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