Why not responsible bars for psychodelics?

I've always wondered why the u.s can't just have a place for psychodelic use, much like a bar for alcoholic beverages. I mean it would be perfect. It could be easily controled by bouncer like dudes, and mental professions for people that get a little out of hand or have a bad trip. It's not like people are just going to go insane and kill everyone. I mean shit. I mean alcohol is a horrible drug for your mind and your body, and as fare as phyisical damage to the body, its by fare way worse then psychodelics. Also alcohol has a tendency to make you aggersive toward others, psychodelics have a much less chance of that. Even if someone were having a bad trip or were out of hands they could always be louded up with flourozine, right? I mean really how is this idea so bad in comperison to alcohol?

 

Because what comes with psychadelics is mind-expansion (in most). With this mind-expansion we begin to realise what the government is actually doing and we can begin to understand the things they don't want us to know.

 

the government sucks!

 

You suck

...at ideas and spelling. I mean, I think it'd be funny to maybe have a scene in a movie where people go to psychedelic bars and the bouncers are hippies that are *only* stoned or something.

But you can't be serious, that's a terrible idea. The last thing I'd want to do while tripping is go hang out with a bar full of other people that are tripping that are trying to describe their experience to me.

 

genocidalgopher, you are exactly right. The government will never make psychedelics legal. It would be awesome if acid was legal, but a bar type of thing wouldnt be the best idea though b/c different people like different music, etc. But they SHOULD be allowed to responsible mature people - like if they had interviews and a limited amount to buy each week, or something, it could work. But "straight-edge" american people who are closed minded about LSD and the government which must continue to control people to maintain power over us will never allow it to be legalized in any fucking way, and with this drought, the whole damn situation sucks.

 

it does yes.

 

*Thorazine

 

Various psychedelics are a part of some cultures both historical and modern. In those places, it has become integrated into their culture. They have not become fully integrated in most western cultures though. Timothy Leary had posed plans to have places in the U.S. set up for psychdelic use but they were more like spiritual retreat type places rather then bar like. There are several religions through out the world that use psychedelics legally.

 

Timothy leeary fucked every thing up for everyone.

 

he did alot more for the psychedelic movement than your or i. everyone gives leary shit, but he was doing what he thought needed be done, as any of us would have. he did some incredible research that most people will never know about, and he put the idea of lsd out there into the minds of the masses. lsd would have become illegal with or without leary.

 

dumb idea because...:

1-LSD is NOT for everyone...basically dumb people can not handle it.
2-Having a bunch of stupid tripping people walking around outside is worst than drunk people
3-People would finally notice how messed up society and our government is (this is not really a bad thing, but it is in the eyes of the government!)

 

*imagines one guy shouting hes being attacked by giant pink monkeys from the beyond, then the whole "bar" can suddenly see them and everyone is screaming and trying to hide from the pink monkeys*

I don't think they can have enough bouncers haha

If bars existed I would go though, but just to spectate I'm sure it would be extremely comical...

 

Yeah i don't know if it is a good idea to put that many fucked up people in a small space together. Who knows what would happen... with all the weird people in this world

 

Man, Leary did fuck things up. He went from promoting a controlled use of the drug in a medical setting and then suddenly went to "everyone should use it." Like a lot of us know, it's not for everyone, but since Leary promoted it...

Hunter S. Thompson got it right, along with just about everything else he wrote about...I'm sure you've all heard this, but take it out of context of the movie and remember that HST in fact did not like Leary and thought that what he was doing was wrong:

"We’re all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled the 60’s. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary’s trip. He crashed around America selling consciousness expansion without ever giving a thought to the the grim meathook realities that were lying in wait for all those people who took him seriously. All those pathetically eager acid freaks who though they could buy peace and understanding, for $3 per hit."

Not everyone can or should be enlightened.

 

americans are so damn materialistic they needed somthing material to turn them on. lsd was that material for alot of people. it has the power to show an individual the pathless path. thats it....lsd wont walk that path for you.

if an individual dosent have the courage to walk that path...or the sight to even recognize what is being revealed, its on them, and not leary.

 

What are you talking about that would be fucking tight, it would be very similar to an acid test without the music, it sounds like alot of fun to me, shit if you go to amsterdam you can trip in bars all you want. And plus if you were ever allowed to trip in special bars this would mean the drug would be legal and there would be much less paranoia and confusion about the whole deal.

 

A large building used as a pyscedelic research center/recreational center would be awesome actualy.. A place where you could play Laser Tag, and listion to music, dances, raves, whatever.. live concerts.. with controlled doses of MDMA, LSD, Bee's along with Salvia, Lions Tail, and Mushrooms! Although it would never happen, and if it did it could be deadly.. Everybodys built diffrently.. but reguardless.. Its an interesting idea.

 

WOW i have never really thought about playing laser tag while tripping before. thanks for the great idea

 

leary never said everyone should use it. he said it was only for the happy, healthy, and wholesome.

 

dunno bout laser tag haha... id start freaking out thinking i was in a war and about to get killed or something..