Who thinks Prostitution SHOULDN'T be legalized? I mean you're paying for it anyway...

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Ozone, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. Ozone

    Ozone Member

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    **Not sure if this is the right place to post this, so move it if it belongs somewheres else.

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    Its 2 consenting adults making a transaction. Most dudes have to dish out time and money to impress women anyways. Let them just get right to the point.
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    It should be legalized and should be operated in much the same way it is in the Amsterdam.
     
  3. liguana

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  4. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Legalize and tax it. More money for us, cleaner and safer industry for prostitutes.

    I have the same opinion for marijuana.
     
  5. liguana

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    Sera, obviously you didn't read the link I provided. About taxing something like this... this is not a commodity like liqueur and tobacco and should not be taxed as such but taxed at the same rate as income earners.
    Amsterdam has problems with it's legalized system...I DO NOT support legalizing prostitution, it makes it a worse environment for the sex workers despite what many lefties may think. Better to decriminalize it. Plz read that link to get updated on these issues.
     
  6. Peculiar Girl

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    While I don't necessarily feel that it should be "taxed", I do feel that the government should have their nose in it to an extent. I believe a license should be required for a SMALL fee. In order to obtain and keep this license, the prostitute should have to be screened for STD's on a regular basis. This way a prospective customer can request to see the prostitutes license and know that this prostitute is more likely to be disease free than the unlicensed prostitute on the street corner.
     
  7. liguana

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    Edit my last post:
    I didn't mean to suggest any specific taxation, but I do feel that the client and not the sex worker should bear the tax burden. With gst, sales tx, tobacco tx, liquere tax the client bears the burden and the worker bears the burden with income tax tho income tx can be lower than the other taxes. Also high taxes will backfire as it'll spawn an underground market that'll be even more dangerous.

    Amtserdamn is far from perfect and it's not hard to come up with an improved version. As it stands, many females don't qualify for a license, not cos they're sick but cos:
    many are not of an age of majority,
    some have a past criminal record of prostitution, which in these jurisdictions disqualifies them for a license now tell me if that makes any sense,
    some are illegal immigrants.
    These ppl would still be subject to the unlicensed, illegal and dangerous market.
     
  8. liguana

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    Tho that may sound like a good idea, many sex workers would have some serious privacy concerns if their full name or other info is made available to just any prospective client. Cos of stigma and degradation some sex workers keep this a secret from their family, etc., a prospective client can use that information against the sex worker and control her further.

    How much info the worker must supply to get a license is also not a simple matter.
     
  9. liguana

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    ^^^Also with names clients could get addresses, stalk or any number of things could go wrong. The privacy and security of the sex workers must be a priority if u ever hope to see prostitutes apply for licenses.

    Some references:
    Legalization makes it more acceptable for men to use prostitutes and use women in general as a sex commodity, see 10 Reasons for Not Legalizing Prostitution.

    In that link the legalization environment as it currently exists in jurisdictions that legalized it, legalization has legitimized the exploitation of women. In some license brothels the women lose all autonomy, that is they don't have a say in what they won't do, the brothel managers dictate to them that they can't refuse any request, even street prostitutes have more control than that.

    See also Legalizing Prostitution Will Not Stop the Harm

    Reform should be aimed at ending the punitive treatment of the sex worker but coercive and exploitative pimps and customers should not go with impunity.
     
  10. Psy Fox

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    So what is needed is the unionization of prostiution, if prostitution is legal prostitutes can legaly strike aginst their employers.
     
  11. TheRealPamela

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    George Carlin (comedian) said something alone the lines of

    "selling is legal. F*cking is leagal. So why isn't selling f*cking legal?"

    I think some sort of structure should be set up for an alliance of sex workers. I do not necessarily agree with what they are doing but I feel it would be safer for all involved and no one should have to worry about getting beat up if they don't have the money for their "bosses" (pimps)
    I am sure that abuse goes largely unreported out of fear and that's not right. Prostitutes are people, and deserve protection just like anyone else.
     
  12. Anders

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    I believe in love.

    Prostitution is just like war and murder,raping and stuff a thing i dont believe in.
    those are all mostly here on earth because of man.
    I live in holland and its not only in amsterdam.besides its everywhere and should be banned.But hey i believe in love
     
  13. Rev Van

    Rev Van Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I've been in countries where it was legal, and sexually transmitter diseases were far fewer than they were here.

    If legalized it would be better controled.
     
  14. experimenting youth

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    If it was legalised there'd be to many people annoyed with the current government and within a few months it would be illegal, the government try to do what the public want(or atleast keep the public happy) even in these forums, some of the most liberal open-minded people in the world argue and many believe it shouldn't, most religions say no etc

    It would never work

    with weed the government are just being stubborn

    P.S. what I said might not apply to every country
     
  15. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    heh.............it's the oldest profession in the world.

    The only reason it's illegal is because it goes against the christian moral code.

    The only thing that makes sense is too legalize it, then it could be regulated which would make it safer.
     
  16. satirul

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    it's not the oldest job in the world,hunting/ gathering is.for the guy to pay the first prostitute,he should have had something to pay with,right?:)

    i don't like the ideea of prostitution;i find it degrading and i don't like people who loose their pride for whatever reason.i'd rather pay more taxes to the welfare sistem than see women forced to sell themselves.
     
  17. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    not all women think like you do, some of them WANT to sell thier bodies, and it IS in FACT the WORLD'S OLDEST PROFESSION. Hunting/Gathering are methods of subsistence, not a profession.

    So you suggest, it should be illegal because it fits into the ethos of your ideology?? Because it makes YOU uncomfortable, that should limit another's freedom of doing as they please with thier own body?!? It's only degrading if it's forced upon you, if you willingly go into it as a profession, it's hardly degrading. What about Jiggalo's.........do you really think all of these men are doing it out of desperation? Many are very wealthy and have subsisted thier entire lives on seducing and fucking rich women, BY CHOICE, it is thier profession.................is it therefore ludicrous to assume that a female can do the same?? That because of thier feminimity they should be pitied and looked upon with woe??

    --That's pretty sexist of you to make that ascertation.
     
  18. lvmichael

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    I read far too many true crime books and every time I finish a book regarding some serial killer who preyed on prostitutes, I feel deeply that whoever has long been opposed to protecting these people should be tried for their grisly murders right along with the serial killer. I agree with whomever said it: Sex is the greatest joy available to mankind. These people are giving joy to others. They should be protected. People who are working in jobs who do nothing more than rip people off (a college degree gives you a license to steal) and give you no great joy, these are the Hookers who should NOT be protected.
     
  19. steely_j

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    well why not continue and decriminalize or legalize human trade, they are gona end up as prostetutes anyways, why block the road to it?
    sorry a little sercasm there, but sex is a holy thing, between two people to show love. it shouldnt be sold for money, can you sell love for money?
     
  20. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    You're pretty naive if you honestly believe that sex necessarily has anything to do with love.
     
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