How To Roll The Basic Joint (For beginners)

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Peace_of_Pizza, Aug 5, 2004.

  1. lady_of_the_flowers

    lady_of_the_flowers Member

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    Amen to that. It's the grinding that takes the time. Once it's prepared rolling only takes 10-15 seconds (well, for me anyway)
     
  2. hedgecore

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    Just to let you know people roll differently in the UK from America. I would also think that geck knows a whole lot more about rolling/smoking than you or I do.
     
  3. maryjaneguitargurl

    maryjaneguitargurl I am just like you.

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    or the easiest way is to get that friend to do it for you


    peace
    chickens
     
  4. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    You don't need to use three papers to roll one joint. Two if you really need it but one is the best. Smoking a three paper joint would be a pain in the ass. You don't weed be smoking paper you want to smoke weed.

    I like how you said that you way wasn't the only way to roll but you criticize every other person way. Open your mind man.
     
  5. Peace_of_Pizza

    Peace_of_Pizza Member

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    Yeh... I said either use 3 or just use one king size, i just told how to use small size cus some people arn't lazy and like a challenge. Using two makes ur joint twice as fat its good but better to do that with 3 king size.

    True i have been criticising every1, becuase they been crirtisiing me. So i just stuck it too em. READ BETWEEN THE LINES!
     
  6. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    YOU read between the lines- you're trying to come off as a 16 year-old expert. THE expert. How many joints have you rolled?

    Well, I got news for you: 2 or 3 papers is the mark of an amateur.
     
  7. Peace_of_Pizza

    Peace_of_Pizza Member

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    This is my second *sigh*.... Notice it says for beginners yeh im giving my basic advice. I must have literally rolled at least a thousand joints and over in my time and i was trained by a guy who certainly knew his stuff. I havnt rolled a very wide variety of joints but the ones i can roll i do preety well Including Tulip and a few others im not sure exactly the proper name's for windmill or somthing and ive rolled foot joints and watnot anyway... Im not trying to show up to any1 really, I'd like to stop this bickering i was just hoping to at least see one person thank me for my advice... And offer tips such as different types of joints or any little things that are really usefull, not attempts to bring down wat i have said.

    That is all
     
  8. keowyn

    keowyn Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Dude, thanks for bringing up this topic so that all us stoners can share our knowledge. It is pretty amazing how many people can have different approaches to the same problem. Certainly by sharing my information I was not trying to condemn anyone elses advice. It is all useful.


    Toke up and enjoy man, no hard feelings.
     
  9. Peace_of_Pizza

    Peace_of_Pizza Member

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    Thx Keowin, i wasnt really aiming at you as your advice wasnt trying to bring mine down and it was aimed at being helpfull.

    Will people plz post anything that is helpfull about rolling and smoking joints, that does not also include saying anything about my way of rolling in a way that seems to be an act of desperate defiance.

    As i too would like to know more about rolling, thx
     
  10. Inavacuum

    Inavacuum Senior Member

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    Why put tobacco in your joints?
     
  11. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    It burns better.

    But where I was getting at was if you don't smoke shwag and smoke danks nugs that cost $50 an 8th you don't want to be rolling half of your stash into one joint. If your smoking shwag you might need two papers but three is too many.
     
  12. Inavacuum

    Inavacuum Senior Member

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    Why would you not be able to get high off of a joint that was rolled in 15 seconds?
     
  13. LuciferSam

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    Bleh I hate tobacco (except the occasional pipe backy). Ain't worth a better-burning joint. I prefer bowls anyway. I'd like to try some of those fancy joint designs but they're all freaking huge and seem to be designed that way to make room for the backy.
     
  14. Peace_of_Pizza

    Peace_of_Pizza Member

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    Im confused, to roll a joint i either use 1 king size skin, or muliple small size ones. There is no "two skinned joint" With small or little ones they start from three and you add 2 everytime... Explain how a two skin base is made or do you mean just place one on the top of the other so its twice as think but still the same length? Cus other wise the joint couldnt possibly be air tight.

    Without tobbaco, or somthing to help the weed burn like sage (which is incredibly hot and tastes like shit) then you really are wasting a lot of weed because wat i think happens from experience is the weed on the outside Layer of each little blim or piece of weed burns only, then falls out, due to there being nothing to support it in and to keep it inside the joint at a high enough temperature to vaporise it inside the joint wen you toke.

    Also from experience the quality of how the joint is rolled also greatly affects this as well, i mean wen you roll a joint in 15 seconds you would have to make sure the mixture inside is evenly mixed, the joint is completely air tight (so wen you have scrunched up the end after poking the bob down, you can suck in from the joint end with the roach in and the joint contracts like sucking in air from a bottle.) You also have to roach it in this time which is wat i think second from burning the weed takes the longest amount of time. If this is done poorly then the joint is basically un-smokable. And im preety sure its physically impossible to sprinkle the weed in finely, in somthing like 5 seconds and evenly enough to even make the joint roll-able without it falling apart or smokable due to the size of each blim.

    Although with bud this is different as you cancel the sprinkling part.

    Also joints dont have to be large to be complicated thats where ur own style comes in.

    P.S plz dont beat me up for saying this i was answering some questions *smack* *ow my nose!*
     
  15. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    bleh, people calm down. if you wana use tobacco, use it. i personally hate the stuff, but to each their own. lol. i've seen people roll awesome weed-only j's, and some that cant roll if they had to. they get me high, thats all i care about.
     
  16. yazzi

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    no matter how good the description is you aren't gonna learn how to roll online.
    practice n observance is the only way.
     
  17. keowyn

    keowyn Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Rolling with t'baccy1. J burns better
    2. J is easier to roll
    3. J is bigger
    4. j looks nicer
    5. with only 1/4 to maybe 1/2 t'baccy, it still tastes like weed, mostly
    6. J lasts longer and can be passed to more people
    7. You can smoke a phatty without burning up all your stash


    It is very easy to roll with just weed however. The trick is to break up your MJ as fine as possible. I had a friend who used a coffee grinder for his MJ. Wow, that was smooth burning grass. The finer you break up your bud, the smoother, slower, and more even it will burn.
    Also pay attention to how Dank your bud is. Very wet, resinous bud just isn't ideal for Js. Dry bud is better, as it burns more readily.


    # of papers? Aw crap, it doesn't matter that much. A single paper can work fine if you are good enough at rolling. Yeah, you gotta get the seam to close real good. Cigarette papers or king size, both make awesome J's. If you are making really big phat pieces of art, use as many papers as you need. It is worth pointing out that you do have to smoke the papers, so sometimes you may want the extra papers, if say your weed is dank.


    Having trouble keeping your J together. Take another paper. Tear of just the gum strip. Wet the end of the gum strip. Wrap it arround the part of your J that needs some extra reinforcement. Then wet the whople strip from the outside. That'll hold your J together. Also good for patching wholes or covering soggy parts of you got too enthusiastic licking your paper.


    Damn, I feel like a windbag. I hope this helps some people.
     
  18. Peace_of_Pizza

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    Hang on did Peace earlier wen he said rolling with "two skins is enough" did he mean two skins to make the base :S well u never should have to resort to that i hope.

    And i thought wen people said they roll with just weed i thought they ment normal weed (seems to be so many names for that but weed where i come from is hard weed not bud)

    I thought they meant rolling with bud, yeh i roll pure bud joints somtimes preety annihilating tho, too strong to have physical fun like playing football, but are amazing for laughing at some1 getting slapped for hogging the joint or somthing. Can you make pure joints out of hard weed? How could it possibly burn properly? I tried making a joint like that once and i had to hold the lighter at the end to keep the weed burning, as it would just go out almost instantly.

    P.S the word for bud isnt bud either its "skunk" here
     
  19. keowyn

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    Peace, dude, please read my posts. I've said like 3 times, shred it up real fine. That way you will not have to worry aboput blims falling out, blims burning on just the outside, holding your lighter to the end, etc...
    'Cause I'm not sure, what are you refering to when you keep talking about the base? You somehow roll a base and then add to it? How big of J's are you rolling that you need 3 or more papers?
     
  20. Peace_of_Pizza

    Peace_of_Pizza Member

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    lol, Keowin are you my translator or somthing?
     

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