CIA Helped one of the principal architects of the holocaust Hide (AP)

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  1. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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  2. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    It's sad that that doesn't surprise me. Hell, Werner Von Braun got his own saturday morning childrens show. Politics is a bitch, eh? sometimes you have to join up with really awful people to help protect yourself against a threat (real or imaginary).
    Still... Eichman was atleast one thing that Israel did right.
     
  3. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Catstevens, GREAT POST! If you have an interest in this you should research "Project Paperclip" which was declassified long before this was....in which the CIA actually shipped dozens of Nazi war Criminals INTO THE UNITED STATES after WWII to help them set up their intelligence organizations and to help fight the communists.
     
  4. Politics are awesome

    Politics are awesome Politics suck

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    Some Nazis were principle architects of NASA. :rolleyes: Go fucking figure.
     
  5. Dr Phibes

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    whats the point youre making, cat, dont tell me you think this is appalling?
    what Eichman did was send Jews to their deaths - pretty much what most
    muslims want isn't it? I mean if you listen to the arab muslims and those
    in Asia. Lets face it - the vast majority of muslims I've spoken to in Britain
    profess about the same violence in policies as Eichman - so either you're
    praising America or you are against it - for hiding Eichman - Which is it?
    I mean - all the BS that i've heard muslims speak usually ends up with
    wanting to rid the world of Jews - so do you support Eichmans views that
    he had - or do you oppose them?
     
  6. Leopold Plumtree

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    I think guys like von Braun were more engineers than Nazi sympathizers (okay, they were prob'ly that too). And if not, oh well. :p
     
  7. catstevens

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    Hi Angel_Headed_Hipster
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    I believe and think or don't exclude that they may still do similar things as long as it helps them to reach their goals. but who knows, Allah knows best.
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    Hi Dr Phibes
    Read post#7, People should understand USA' policy
    Most, There are maybe 1 billion Muslims or more I didn't meet thousand of them? Are ya sure Most;) By the way ask them why they think so and which Jews they are talkin about, and when muslims want something isn't always what Qur'aan teaches, and ask the jews too about their opinions, and keep all the answers for these qs for ya, my goal of this thread was what i've said above, keep off topics threads for you.

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  9. Dr Phibes

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    Yeah we can be pretty sure most muslims profess to hate the jews
    You havent said anything about this thread - merely cut and pasted some well known information - I find it pretty sinister that you appear to be accusing the USA of harbouring Nazi sympathisers when in Britain, Asia, and the Arab world there are some live Nazis trading under various banners of the muslim faith and I just want to know - what your aim of this thread is - If its to get people to see that Bush and the USA have Nazi sympathies - then thats pretty rich coming from someone who's faith has virtually the same political ideals as Eichman and Hitler and the rest of those criminals. Dont get me wrong - its not that the Israeli Nazis are any different - this aint about that cuz theyre just as corrupt - I'm simply asking whats your point - mainly so I can see if you have a valid point or whether its just more blatant hypocrisy.
     
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    you can be so, so you're not sure... how do you explain this that Muslims can marry Jewish woman ? keep the answer
    .. whateva
    Do you know why there are forums, BTW keep the answer for ya.
    Not well-known for every one, once again:Do you know why there are forums

    I already did, you didn't get it, it is your problem, and keep off topics things for ya
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  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    This is news to people? All the top Nazis were given refuge either in the US or South America. Nazis were behind the creation of so much in this country during the past 60 years, from the CIA to NASA. If this is news to people, it's time they start reading a little more.... and not Newsweek or Time.

    Western elites funded Hitler and his war machine, so is this any surpirse to anyone who isn't brainwashed by the media? This is the LEAST of what the US has done.
     
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    Pressed_Rat
    :eek:
    *Peace and love*

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  13. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Of course, Nazis were convicted of a crime which didn't exist when they commited it - this is contrary to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
     
  14. Dr Phibes

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    I still dont get what you are trying to say.
    You want to bring this to peoples attention and stir up
    sympathy against the U.S government and yet you have the gall
    to align yourself with a political force that is equal to anything
    the nazis thought up - for example shariah law.
    The very people that lead the fascist force know as islam
    behead people in the name of peace - WTF is you about CAT ?
    What is this hypocritical crap you are spouting - perhaps before
    you go stirring other peoples shit - you should look into some
    of the crap that you align yourself with. It would be wise
    to clean up your own house before getting down to it in other peoples.
    So come on then - where are your posts about the islamofascists
    you so obviously overloook in your posts about uncle sam?
     
  15. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    ok, so cat stevens is a muslim or atleast looks like it being that his signature has to do with it...you claim he is aligning himself with a political force that is just as bad as the nazis, sure islamic fundamentalists are as bad as nazis, but there is a big difference between islamic fundies and muslims, just like if you were a christian it doesnt mean you align yourself with Jerry Fallwell.
     
  16. Dr Phibes

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    Yeah but I dont see what the point of being against the opposition is.
    Well not if you are truly against fascism.
    Why does he have to make American people angry at their own government?
    The hypocrisy being that the fascists on the islamic side are JUST AS BAD!
    He doesnt point that out -
    It sort of makes me think its like pointing out that Eichman was a fascist but
    Abu Hamza is just portrayed badly in the press - Oh do us a favour eh?
    Get real - there are fascists on both sides - if its fascism he's worried about then tear it down on both sides. In Ireland Christians on both sides of the war
    booted out their corrupt fascist terrorists
    Somehow I think its just hypocritical point scoring -
    If CatStevens is really interested in the fact that Eichman was hidden by
    the CIA then let him say why its significant
    I got a post pulled once for just doing a cut and past with no comment
    so I want to know what this point is
     
  17. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Yeah but fighting Islamic Fundamentalism is the perfect excuse to go and invade sovereign middle eastern nations for no reason. Anyone with a brain knows that Islamic Fundies can never do anything that would cause any real damage to America, there is absolutley no way they could bring a huge superpower like America down. The evidence is conclusive, the official story of 9/11 does not work, and the debate is over whether our governmnet was involved or not...there is absolutely no way Arab Fundamentalists could pull off such a fantastic military precision attack like that, and it was almost certainly made to happen by our certain elements of our intelligence organizations and the military, or more so criminals who have hijacked the military and the intelligence organizations, who are mostly made up of good people who are compartmentalized to play a part and not know what's really going on. The purpose of the post was to show that all this talk by our government of stopping facism and spreading democracy all over the world is rubbish, and you can clearly see that the US foreign Policy is not about spreading democracy but spreading THEIR fascism to the Middle East as opposed to Islamic Fascism. The fact that our government had a part in hiding one of the most infamous Nazi War Criminals shows this. That is the point.
     
  18. catstevens

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    Phibes:)
    Hey! I have the right to write about whatever I like, we are in hipforums, you don't like it, go and look for other forums, you don't like my threads, don't read them, wanna analyze my intentions, go and open your own clinic or whateva, I don't care, but I think it doesn't fit you :confused: , maybe you have to study first :D .
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  19. Dr Phibes

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    Oh no - except set off a few bombs that blow innocent people to pieces
    You have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of that except a pile of links that will all eventually point to some conspiracy theorists website - believe me I have been searching for that proof since it happened and unless YOU are an expert in about 30 different disciplines I doubt you could know in advance of a trial what the evidence actually means - for example
    check out how a building like that could collapse from one plane strike.
    Now go get the evidence off the internet where there is anyone who has done exact stress test modelling - to industry standards - that prove a plane copuld not have brought those towers down and I doubt you or I would even understand the data let alone the outcome.

    Dont get me wrong I happen to have an instinctive feeling the gov did it too but what gets me is when someone who proclaims themselves a follower of islam starts slagging off the USA when he knows that its an easy target.
    The point being there are people who are from the USA here
    that have the opinion it is only right to slag off their government. He is a hypocrite. My two business partners are muslims and I know for a fact
    that the majority of muslims I have met - want war to continue - they want a pop at the west - they have the arrogance to call for terrorist action against the west but when a western leader calls for action, that is somehow more criminal ? I DONT THINK SO
    I think muslims should educate their own people to drop the hate before telling people to stop their government - I have to go to work every morning not knowing whether some kid with a god complex is gonna blow the metro to pieces so do 12 million others. I have good contacts in the muslim community of Britain. They are not for peace with the west - believe me - the leaders want aggression - Those that dont are laughed at
    by the majority of muslims -
     
  20. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    I agree Definitly. I think the Terrorists and the Fundamentalists are mere tools being used by forces much higher than the US or the Middle East Go. These People think they are fighting for their people and against Israel? When In real life all they are doing is giving the US and Israel and Excuse to crack down even more on their people and their land.
     
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