Psychedelics

Discussion in 'Old Hippies' started by stebo32, May 9, 2006.

  1. stebo32

    stebo32 amanita monster

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    This is a question to you old hippies. as you've experienced more things and have a wider perspective of life.

    K... this is about psychedelics...

    Ive done my fair share of experimentation with many different ones. I know Im 16, but thats a different story.

    Through lots of experimenting, mostly with shrooms and amanitas, Ive come to realise psychedelics arent that mind expanding. People who use them claim to have their minds "opened" and all that spiritual bullocks... But if there's something you learn with an open-mind, is that anything goes... and psychedelics, they bring you into THEIR reality, theres so many different ways to view the universe as, psychedelics are one way... and to me an acid-head or an overly religious folk are quite the same at a certain extent...

    Last year i went through depressions, intense weeks of paranoia and delusions after a few months of intense shrooming. When I was about 13-14 I was very much interested in lucid dreaming, awareness walks and astral traveling... i was really happy and aware of life around me... the trees, the noise, my senses were at their sharpest... but after these years, and into the psychedelic realms, i felt myself succombed in "darkness" as dumb as it may sound... i was in haze, wasnt even aware anymore, my dreams werent lucid anymore, and my happiness at its lowest.


    Some of you probably have had a fair share of experiments with diverse psychedelics, what have you learned throughout the years? are they really that spiritually intense as they are known to be?
     
  2. Last Stand

    Last Stand Banned

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    when ever you feel greatness and is gone depression is soon to fallow . regardless what got you into the greatness feeling to beging with .
     
  3. HighDesertHippie

    HighDesertHippie Banned

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    "Without sadness there can be no joy." -Don Juan

    You will snap out of it, and be stronger for it.
     
  4. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I did alot of Owsley acid in 66' and 7 in S.F.--Sometimes it was fun and other times it was scary-same with mushrooms-Personally I found it very enlightening but only as another teaching tool-It opens up a larger portion of the brain -but it is not ment for long time use or as a party drug-When the stuff quit being fun I knew it was my body's way of telling me to quit-and move on---it;s powerful magic and the mind is unknown territoy-be careful and quit when it's time -don't be the last one to leave the party--good luck--
     
  5. THUDLY

    THUDLY Member

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    Shrooms are dangerous drugs-- they open you to the "bad" side as well as the "good" side.
     
  6. Rapscallion

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    I don't want to sound like I know better because I'm older. What I do want to convey is that you need a "reality" basis from which to experience the alternate "realities" that psychedelics present.
    At 16, you haven't yet established a stable world view that you can use as a sea anchor when your mind wanders through the landscape beyond our traditional view of reality. I too have wandered those paths on Owsley and orange yellow sunshine and mushrooms. I always had a sense that there was a home base to which I would eventually find my way back. Life is the rule.....tripping,....the exception.

    If you use the drugs wisely (and sparingly), there are true life lessons to be learned and retained for incorporation into your "real" world view. If you use drugs too often, it's very hard to maintain a world view that functions on a daily basis....hence confusion and the depression that accompanies it.

    Find peace and happiness in the passage of time and the changes that are all around you. "Now" is the true reality.

    ....Rapscallion
     
  7. Donvito1122

    Donvito1122 Hippy Teacher to be!

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    Hey man, I just had to tell you rapscallion that was amazingly said man. I had a similar thought that when you are just 16, even 18 like myself, you have not experienced the "real world" yet. You have only seen a small watered down version so you really don't have anything to compare a trippy world to. But you said it much better than me man. I'd just advise you to be very carefull with any psyc drug man, they can really help you out and give you a different view but as with everything there is a flip side. I know I'm not an "old Hippie" or even close I just saw this thread and thought I'd check it out....sorry if I wasn't supposed to respond


    Keep fighting for Peace,

    Al
     
  8. bamboo

    bamboo Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    here is what I learned in a nut shell...reality is what your brain tells you it is. That's it...that is the secret of the universe..the whole schemolly.

    You take some psycho-drug...you know that in about an hour or less your world is going to change...you know it will be caused by the drug...its not really real. Then it happens and it still scares the shit out of you and for that all to brief / long episode you live in a new reality that is funny / scarry but just as real as the reality you just left. Its all in the brain. Real reality is all in the brain too. and with that piece of wisdom I have constantly changed my world for the rest of my life because I know that I can...its all just in the brain and I don't need the drug to that I just have to will it and make it happen. I have taken that jot of the essence of the universe and done anything and everything that I have ever wanted to do because I know that I can...because its just all in the brain.
     
  9. Gitmo Dave

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    Yes 16 is too young to use drugs. The personality has not established itself enough. I was 24 when I first took LSD and I had no preparation for what I experienced after reading extensively about it prior to taking it. So that was too young for me. Albert Hoffman who invented LSD said that it would be good for artists, muscians, theologians and philosophers. Alan Watts book the 'Joyous Cosmology' which you can find in its entirety online is as good a description of the 'experience' as you can get.

    I no longer use any drugs, however I do look back on my LSD experiences as something that I value. I remember after my first trip I went around for weeks afterwards thinking I had seen something that no man was allowed to see. Like the primal scene of the Universe. At that stage of my life I understood it in Christian terms of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That was the only framework I could look at it in as that was my background. LSD is big medicine. It should not be taken lightly.

    Saying that I think it was valuable for me. But it can harm you. I know a person who went mad and ended up a suicide after spending the last ten years of his life in an institution. There is always that danger. I was one of his pall bearers. He was 29 at that time.

    I have been depressed from shrooms too. Also with mescaline. I find having a clear mind now is better than being high.
     
  10. HighDesertHippie

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    Man had direct communication with God until Adam ate from the tree.
     
  11. Skoozy

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    I didn't hardly do anything in the 70's but a few Qualudes and some Peanut Butter T, I smoked pot and drank until I was 37. Then, I met my best freind now and he showed me the right way to do psychedelics. I can't say it is a mind altering experience. It is a bonding experience with those in the environment at the time. I look forward to our little trips. I just try to remember it's a chemical reaction. It alters the way your brain processes what you see. I prefer shrooms. I've tried acid and ecstacy. They are ok, but if it's my dollar its's shrooms.


    For the young fella who ate too many shrooms. You've depleted your seratonin supply
    at a faster rate than it replets itself. If you've used it all, scientists aren't real sure if it starts making again. If you have some left, It's supposed to build more back up.
     
  12. The Stig

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    mushrooms do not affect your brains production of seratonin, me thinks you have ecstacy in mind.

    Psilocin acts as an agonist at the 5-HT2a seratonin receptors in the brain, where it mimics the effects of seratonin (5-HT). You are not actually increasing seratonin production levels; therefore, no depletion!


    **the moore you know lol
     
  13. THUDLY

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    Thudly does not recommend pscilociben for anyone.It is more dangerous than LSD. Only intelligent dare-devils should even consider it.


    The Aztecs, human sacrificers and sick people from a devilish-culture, considered it "food of the Gods".

    WHICH GODS? The Gods of human sacrifice?

    Take acid, if you must; stay away from mushrooms.

    Thudly has spoken.
     
  14. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    WHAT?! lol, how much about serOtonin do you know? ecstasy will flood the brain of serotonin, leaving it to slowly replete itself the next day. you cannot run out of serotonin as it is made in the brain. The protein Tryptophan is found in foods such as bananas and turkey. Tryptophan converts to the neurotransmitter serotonin. Did you know that [size=-1]eating just two bananas a day for three days can increase levels of serotonin in the blood by 16%?
    And shrooms won't drain serotonin. psilocin will fit into the serotonin sockets and overstimulate them giving false signals. there's no real "comedown" on shrooms as the rate of serotonin doesn't take long to return to normal. [/size]
     

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