Why do humans care about life?

Discussion in 'Metaphysics and Mysticism' started by Inquiring-Mind, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    If eventually they will die anyways.

    What is the point of this world? If there is a heaven and and hell?
     
  2. heron

    heron Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Because they will die, life means even more.

    If one were immortal, what would life matter then?
     
  3. Fjolnirsson

    Fjolnirsson Member

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    What we do in this world affects our children. Our luck and honour is passed on to our family line. Furthermore, a man can acheive a measure of immortality in this world, by performing great deeds by which he will be remembered after his death.
    Hmm, seems like I've quoted this a lot lately:
    Cattle die and kinsmen die,
    thyself too soon must die,
    but one thing never, I ween, will die,
    fair fame of one who has earned.
    -Havamal 75
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    It just is.

    Why do we care about life? No life = no humans. It's all we've got.
     
  5. pop_terror

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    I don't believe in immortality for human beings. Ultimately everything is destroyed and forgotten.

    If there's nothing special about life then there's no such thing as life, really. It's just an amalgamation of death. Even consciousness is a mode of death, in that case. If there is something special about life, that is to say that it somehow transcends our physical bodies. If there is nothing special about life then we are already dead, so what is there to fear?

    The point of this world is to make one's visions concrete, as is evidenced by this ultimately being an impossible task. Nothing is concrete. Nothing lasts. It does seem to last longer than a dream, though.
     
  6. sassure

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    We are a point of evolution -- and we must continue to evolve -- we must move from dimension A to dimension B during the few years that we have here. How are we doing? Since we're still spiritually asleep, I would say not very well. That's because, as GB Shaw once tried to point out, we must learn to CONSCIOUSLY evolve -- but what he may not have said is that it takes an application of one's personal energy to catalyze such a transformation. And remember DH Lawrence, that novelist of love? He's supposed to have claimed some kind of spiritual significance for sexuality. And he was right, being far ahead of his time in this matter. The missing pieces here are the following: as we need energy to evolve physically and spiritually from this plane/dimension to the next (where we can more easily attain immortality), we need to tap into our most powerful reserve of this energy: sexual energy. In 2005 our sexual energy is purely a selfish waste; we don't understand that the male-female dynamic has TWO functions: to physically procreate AND to spiritually procreate by a dual-mirroring momentum-building exchange of sexual energy. If we could just read our invisible spiritual DNA we might see this in the code.
     
  7. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    Because life is what we are.

    Why not?

    Do you have a good reason not to care about life? Can you offer one good reason that negates all of the good reasons TO care?

    Just asking.

    Peace and Love
     
  8. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Because everything we do ultimately does not matter but we just make it matter.
     
  9. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I believe we have a soul

    Our soul is energy

    Energy does not die

    It changes

    When we "die", we change. Death is the biggest myth on this planet.
     
  10. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    give me a break, thats one of the oldest misconceptions of highschool physics in the book
     
  11. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I didnt go to "highschool"

    And, admittedly, i am not a scientific person. Physics baffles me. But i have a feeling people like to make it all a lot more complex than it actually is. Im a literary person, i like imagery. Is there any way you can explain what happens to energy for me as if i was a human being, not a robot? Then i may understand, and agree with you. But for now, i feel energy...and my "misconception", which was taught to me in comprehensive school, makes sense to me.

    Xx
     
  12. NaturaAtraSpiritus

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    SO what is the deal with energy?

    I've always heard it never is destroyed or created either... But I have kind of wondered about it. so whats up
     
  13. rainbowedskylover

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    that´s a hard question to answer. and i think human isn´t capable of understanding it completely. so I personaly in´t gonna look for an answer.

    but doesn´t that question needs a topic of it´s own?
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's also a matter about instinct. Isn't that the reason why animals care about their lifes?
     
  15. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    i was thinking about that either
     
  16. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    Hm, your energy is one thing, your consciousness is another.

    Everything is made up of energy in one form or another--since we are all made up of atoms which are made up of quarks and so on and so on, and eventually just straight-up pure energy. Such that, our energy is connected through the air with our computer monitors, on a basis of sharing this space. When we die, our body decomposes and releases the energy into the multiverse through decomposition or what have you. The energy that you were once composed of at some point, is now in a mushroom, or maybe you have enriched the soil for nearby plants to grow from. Maybe a wolf dragged off your body and had its way with you. :) This is my little theory. Most will agree that the energy cycle works like this.

    I just put on a little twist that your consciousness is definately separate from this energy, because it's all in the brain. That's it. Your brain doesnt work? You can't even percieve your own mind. Your head doesn't work anymore, you're dead. If there is some other mystical energy in us, other than magnetism, we have yet to prove it.

    Oh, that's why you should value life. There's a good chance that it's all we got.
     
  17. Cosmic Butterfly

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    I care about life, because I am alive. When a see a small insect crawling on a life I feel connected to that bug. That little bug is alive and we will both die one day. We experiencing the same Earth dimension. Eat, Reproduce, die cycle...over and over. Awww.
     
  18. StonerBill

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    energy does indeed change but the soul is not a type of energy.

    the energy in your brain is electrical and chemical potential. when you die, the energy changes into heat and dissipates through your head and out into the world.


    people do like to make it sound more complicated than it is, but at the same time people actually think of it as much much less complicated than it is.

    youre sensasionalising the word 'energy' as a feeling. this is not what 'energy' means in today's english language, but is a romantic/poetic reference of just as you said, a 'feeling'.
    human beings have the gift of all animals to understand what energy is, but all animals have feelings. thus, by referring to the objective sense of 'energy', i am taking the more 'human' route. robots are just extensions of humans to do quantitative calculations. robots have nothing to do with what we are talking about here, or even scientific conceptualisation at all.

    if all you do is feel, then you mustnt understand anything.

    the fact that energy changes is not the misconception, but that 'felt' energy = energy, and in turn that any 'felt' energies must never go away either. like the 'soul', or the energy of 'love'.
     
  19. Maz

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    it could work on a whole different level, like energy and feelings lose their differences and you get a consciousness that exists in an immaterial form. Mazz
     
  20. dazedandconfused11

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    doesnt anyone get a headache from thinking about that stuff?
     

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