Some people should not be parents

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Hip-Hoplover1, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Hip-Hoplover1

    Hip-Hoplover1 Member

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    I swear some people should not even be allowed to be parents. I went on to a Christian website where the Christians who run it think that being gay is perfectly alright and that God's love comes first and that if a person is happy being gay then that is good. Anyway they help out gay kids who are having a hard time being accepted by their friends and familys. I read this one that was so sad. It was about this kid and his father in Texas. The kids school offers a program for gays and his jerk of a father comes in and tells the counselor in charge of the class that he doesn't want her teaching his son about all this "gay stuff" and totally embarreses him by saying that he doesn't want him hearing its okay to be gay because in his opinion its not. Then his father treats homosexuality like some sort of disease and goes around the house saying gay people are just a bunch of f***ups. Then this poor kid and his father get into fights and the kid starts to cry and his father just says things like: "go on, cry like a whimp" and "you are always going to be a little loser f***up." Once the father even says that if his son keeps this gay "thing" up then he is going to throw him out of the house! Can you believe that?! This guy shouldn't even be a father. I feel so sorry for that kid. At least that website told the kid that his father was wrong and gave him some words of comfort. But I just can't believe how unlucky some people are to get stuck with parents like that!
     
  2. CrazybutLazy

    CrazybutLazy Banned

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    I think it's time to call a social worker. That's abuse.
     
  3. SLammon420

    SLammon420 Senior Member

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    Alot of parents are like that unfortunately. Are the people running the site looking into it at all? They should try and call social services seriously.
     
  4. Hip-Hoplover1

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    The website called it abuse and gave the poor kid information on how to get a hold of his local social services. They told him he needed to get someone to be a third person in this situation. I think that father is scum. I mean he must be saying some other pretty mean things in order to make a 15 year old cry his eyes out.
     
  5. Hip-Hoplover1

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    I have a question for you guys. What would you do if you had a parent like that? Do any of you have parents like that?
     
  6. CrazybutLazy

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    If I had a parent like that, I would probably run away in the night to the nearest payphone to call social services.
     
  7. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    I don't really think anyone should ever be parents.
    We should build a facility on another planet, staffed by robots...and when two people unfortunately spawn an ugly, smelly little raisin...we launch it to that facility where it is raised for the next twelve years or so.
     
  8. CrazybutLazy

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    That's a good point. Everyone will influence their child in some negative way, no matter what.
     
  9. txbarefooter

    txbarefooter Senior Member

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    I did volunteer work for a group in LA that helped street kids. Then (1988-1990) there was an estimated 30,000, yes thirty thousand, kids living on the streets of the west coast of the US. These aren't "homeless" kids in that sense, but kids that left home and are/were living on the streets because they:

    - were being sexually abused
    - were being mentally abused
    - were being physically abused

    they are/were abused by their parent(s) or by a parents lover with the parents knowledge. Usually it is the moms boyfriend and mom sticks up for the boyfriend usually because she doesn't have any other prospects and doens't want to loose him.

    there are times we'd call the kids home and the parents would say:
    - "serves them right" or
    - "tell (kids name) they aren't welcome home" or
    - the favorite "tell (kids name) he/she got themselves into this mess and they have to get themselves out of it" and then the so-called parent(s) would hang up.

    it was a killer to hear this with the kid there and you could see the kid's face acknowledge what their parent said because the kid could see it on your face. It took a long while to get the kid to even trust you .. especially if you're over 25. Many of these kids didn't want to go home. They would rather live and die on the streets than go home.

    A 14, 15 or 16 year old kid shouldn't have to sell his/her body to get money for food or a place to sleep. A kids only worry should be who they are taking to the prom and if ther're ready for tomorrow's algebra test.

    I've done a lot of mentally and physically demanding stuff while in the military but nothing was physically and emotionally draining than working with these kids, wanting to help them all and rarely helping any of them. I worked one or two weekends a month with the group. When I left California I was spent. When I hear or read of such things as in the opening post, I get really upset and try to contain my anger but I get and overpowering urge to beat the fuck out of these jackasses.

    "christians" blaak ** spits on the ground ** these fucks don't have any clue to what it really means.

    sorry. I got on my soapbox, but I had to rant ...
     
  10. Hip-Hoplover1

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    I agree with you on the part about going over there and giving the kids father a good thrashing! No one should be treated like that unless they have treated others like that. This kid has done nothing wrong. He deserves better.
     
  11. SageDreamer

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    With all of the horror stories we've heard about abuse, I think just about everyone would agree that some people should never be parents. At the same time, I think we're a long way off from a time when nobody is a parent. The process of becoming a parent is too easy and pleasurable for things to be otherwise. The technology for the extraterrestrial plant and robots is too far off and the popular demand doesn't exist.
     
  12. txbarefooter

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    I forgot what movie it was in, but I believe the character was played by Keanu Reeves... anyhoo he said something like "yanno, you need a license to drive and to hunt and fish but not one to become a parent"
     
  13. CrazybutLazy

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    A parenting license should be required.
     
  14. Hip-Hoplover1

    Hip-Hoplover1 Member

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    Absolutley!
     
  15. rain_in_summer

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    Easier said than done. ;)
    Who would test the parents and what would a parent need to get a license? Because I'm sure there are plenty of people who would deny my parents such a permit because
    - my Mum became pregnant before marriage
    - they decided not to christen me as a baby so I could decide about my religion on my own when I was old enough
    - they are divorced now
    - my Mum is absolutely fine with me being lesbian and didn't want to send me to an "anti-gay camp" right after she found out
    etc. etc.
    What would your criteria (sp/voc?) for the "parents' permit" be? Just interested...
     
  16. Closet Kid

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    God you guys take life too seriously I'm gonna go hang out with The Furries
     
  17. CrazybutLazy

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    It could be just a couple things.

    - No drug abuse.

    - No history of violence.

    Things like that.
     
  18. rain_in_summer

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    Hum, I doubt everybody who has no drug or violence history is a good parent ... think of some die-hard "Christians" who preach abstinence from all "harmful substances" but still brainwash their children and teach them every other faith/way of living is purely evil ...
    But even if there was such a thing as a parents permit - how would you control it? What about mothers without a permit getting pregant? Abortion?

    Yeah I know "some people should not be parents" is something people "just say" and the whole parents permit business is all hypothetical and not really serious, but still I would find it interesting to discuss the matter.

    PS: Does an occasional joint during your teenage years count as drug history? Because that would already exclude the majority of hipforums members from parenthood. ;)
     
  19. Mental_Breakdown

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    Hmm.. Parent License.. Sounds like a good idea, might want to include psych evaluations and IQ tests, after all we dont need any more idiots in the world, as for christians.. I am going against everything I believe and actively practice saying this, but you can really blame christianity it does have some worthwhile teachings, but the way people choose to follow it, there lies the problem. As for my first point I would instantly be excluded from parenthood mental illness runs deeply within my family, and insanity is one of my biggest turn ons.. shutup!
     

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