Animal Rights Activists:

Is anyone else a member? I've been going to the website (http://www.peta2.com) for about 6 months now. Honestly, no this is not spam or anything, but I love it there!
Basic description: It's an extension of PETA, but made pretty much for teens. For everythign you do for animals, you can email them and they'll give youi points. You can use the points to order different animal rights supplies, it's totally kickass! Sorry, I decided I had to post this to see if anyone else was a member or anything...lol I'll leave now...

 

::cough cough propaganda::

 

Propaganda for what? For compassionate eating? For exercising self control for the sake of other lives? For having a heart and thinking of someone else besides yourself? For contributing to a better cause? For bettering one's self and the lives of others through concious actions? Well then bring it on.. I'm down for that kind of propaganda.

 

I think it's a great site! I'm glad you're encouraging others to check it out. Stay true to your cause and don't let any negative people steer you away from it.

 

I was going to join PETA but then I saw something about them on Penn & Teller Bullshit... about how PETA is really full of shit, so I have decided to join WWF (World Wildlife Fund) instead.

 

WWF isnt that great, they want animals to be tested with chemicals,, not the important 'wild' animals of course, those are too important, but they want to see animal testing for chemicals ... ugh ....

 

I AGREE.. GREENPEACE i think are the worst.. the message maybe good but anything that does not go along with their ideals is ignored or worse rubished. Ignoring 'truths' keeps them in 'business'.. wich is very wrong.

http://www.kfc.com/about/pr/072104.htm

 

join http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/News/NewsFeatureor http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pa_home

Not as 'sexy' sorry.

 

I happen to be a member of The rainforest allience, Greenpeace, and Peta... I used to be a member of habitat for humanity... don't know why I quit..

 

Someone haves to protect the wild animals it doesn't seem like you give a fuck about them.

 

The World Wildlife Fund supports the "sustainable consumptive use" of wildlife. This means that they believe that it is OK to kill wild animals as long as it does not have an endangering effect on the entire population.

Thus, the WWF supports the huge annual harp seal kill in Canada and Newfoundland. The group also fought the passage of the Marine Mammal Protection Act, which banned importation of products from seals, and has since worked to weaken it to allow trophy hunters to bring their polar bear trophies back to the US. They also support programs which permit the trophy hunting of elephants, lions, and similar animals in Africa, and supported the weakening of the "dolphin safe" label to allow dolphins to be chased and encircled with boats, just not killed.
Much like the National Wildlife Federation (an umbrella group for multiple state hunting clubs), the WWF has used cute logos to appeal to wildlife lovers who do not realize the organization also gets behind shooting and clubbing some of those same animals.
As for Penn & Teller, animal/eco-conscious people may want to take them with a grain of salt as well. These two have been openly hostile to a variety of causes, including vegetarianism, environmentalism, organic foods, and anti-war activism. Their stage show has included feigned cruelty to animals for laughs, such as pretending to throw animals into wood chippers. This does not mean there are no concerns about the wiseness of some of PETA's stunts, but it also means we shouldn't look to the Penn & Tellers, John Stossels, and Rush Limbaughs of the world to give us a fair and thoughful assessment of the causes and people those individiuals hate.
There are plenty of organizations that protect wildlife habitat and promote kindness to animals without the double standards of WWF or the theatrics of PETA.

 

I would have no problems with PeTA if they cared more about actually helping animals then getting their name(s)in the papers and news. The stunts they pull are beyond retarded and usually just offend people rather then change minds. It's disappointing to know that the millions of dollars they recieve are majority used to pay for big ad campaigns and merchandise.

Meanwhile, animal sanctuaries, emergency animal hospitals, animal rehab centers, and programs that go after and prosecute animal abusers are left scraping by with almost nothing when they,in fact, directly and physically help animals every single day.

I would sooner donate my money, materials, and time to the above mentioned groups then to PeTA.

People always accuse me of being an animal-hater because I hate PeTA. I didnt realize that only PeTA can care about animals. Though, frankly, I think PeTA cares more about PeTA then they care about anything else.

Recently at a street fair, I was trying to pass out flyers about military testing on animals(as part of my anti-war protesting)...I am not a PeTA member nor did my flyers,in any way, mention PeTA...but I was sneered at and called a Petard. Which is funny because I had no idea that the term "petard" was actually used offline. I was also called unpatriotic.

I also dont like PeTA because their source of animal concern provider Carla Bennet is actually completely wrong about most her info. I wrote a letter after reading some of her false info..asking for her credentials because her "facts" contridict with most of world's leading experts in the animal field.

I got a rather snooty letter telling me that she is an expert because she worked as a veterainary assistant for 5 years and wrote a book on how much she wuvs animals. Sooo..I guess being a glorified flea dipper(and they are because my 19 year old cousin is a VA) now gives you a PHD in biology,veterainary medicine,anthropology,primatology,and anatomy?

If I had known it was that easy...why bother going to college?


If you really love animals and want to help them...get off your duff and donate your time at a place that directly helps animals like a shelter or rescue sanctuary...don't just send money to some big-assed loud group so you can get your "I'm not a nugget" stickers.

Dont waste money on a group that's more concerned about Jennifer Lopez's wardrobe then about the the thousands of sharks being brutally butchered for the Asian shark-fin industry.

which BTW...all you animal persons...I want to start a harsh letter-writing(not lamo online petition/email) campaign to the Japanese government and the UN about the shark-finning industry.

And I want this issue to finally get the media attention it deserves. I'm sick and tired of hearing about sharks being slaughtered simply for their fins..and no one caring because "sharks attack people". If anyone is interested..email me. I am working on a letter to send to the Cleveland Plain Dealer right now. Sharks dont have the same amiable image as whales and seals therefore they barely have any voices for them.

 

quit them all ...ask the posters in between this message and yours (not myself) how to use your time more effectively ... i am sure they can help.

 

Matthew: They are singling out KFc because it is one of the largest fastfood places in North America. If they are humane and have good animal welfare standards, then others will follow. Also, do you think they are telling the truth? Corporations lie to us all the time, if they can hide something, they will. PETA would not waste so much time and energy and $ on them if there wasn't something going on, there are thousands of other problems that they do focus on, but they would focus more on them and less on KFC if there wasn't a problem.


Cynical, "I would have no problems with PeTA if they cared more about actually helping animals then getting their name(s)in the papers and news", they need to get in the news to attract people's attention. If you don't agree with their techniques, fine, but thewy spread the word quickly and well, if there's almost a million members, then obviously they're doing something right. You know how you attract people to learn about your cause? I can tell you one thing, it's not just sitting there, hoping that your petition will attract thousands of people by standing on the corner, it's PUBLICITY.

 

why are people blaming KFC for the abuse? It wasnt their employees, they didnt sanction it.....it was a SUPPLIER of theirs...thats not their fault.

 

That abuse would have occured if KFC didn't use those suppliers. They have to accept some responsiblity.

I'm comfy perched on the fence about PETA. Some things they do are a turn off but they usually have a point.

Never partaken in PETA2 though. Visited the messageboards a couple of times and couldn't stand the smug little know it all kiddies. (most knowlege being simply parroted from the main site) that post there. It's obviously designed for teenagers. Which is fair enough, but I like to think I'm more sophisticated than that.
Obviously I'm not in the target group, it's good being too old and wise for something.

 

I know... I don't partake in any of their activities though.

 

IMHO, they can only be held responsible if they continue to willingly buy from suppliers who have been found guilty of animal abuse

 

I think I said in my post that what I'm trying to do doesnt involve any petitions(I called them lamo online petitions).

I have sent a letter into my city's largest newspaper..hopefully they will publish it. And I'm talking about a proactive and militant letter-writing campaign and getting the media involved.

And you can get the media's attention without pulling offensive and ignorant stunts like what PeTA does.

I would prefer this cause to have a positive image not a negative image caused by stupid tactics.

 

Before I went vegetarian, I had gone online to the PETA website to get information about going veg. They sent me some info. And sure, that was helpful.

But ever since, they've been sending me stupid letters, about once a month, bugging me to join them and donate money. I mean, I want to find a good group to join, but I think PETA is a little extreme, a little nutso sometimes. I think I'll have to write to them to stop sending me things. Or else I'll just ignore them.