Where do the virgins come from?

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Occam, Jul 4, 2006.

  1. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    squarkers

    Um..yep.
    Maybe 'allah' is a tyrant idiot..and knows how to control
    those he feels close to.

    The tyrany of flesh... give them veal

    Occam
     
  2. kar33m

    kar33m Member

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    theoreticaly speaking, neither can he, Unless you are able to prove him wrong about islam before his death. since, judgement day should come after ones death, if catstevens still has faith untill he dies, it wont matter if judgement day turns out not to be real coz at the point catstevens wont even notice it, coz he'll be just be dead. I am using catstevens as an example ,but this could apply to anyone who has a strong faith in an afterlife.

    I think religion is control. It imposes you to live a good life promising you eternal happiness. it doesnt matter if that eternal happiness is fictious cause when you'll be able to realize it, it'll be too late coz you'll already be dead .

    So, in someway a person who had faith will never be able to realize that religion was just a human invention.
    That's why sometimes I envy religious ppl for the fact that they lead a life in which they dont fear anything not even death and live with the belief that everyone will be rewarded for their good actions, while atheists for example have to deal with a much harsher view of life where there are no angels no fairies no good ppl being rewarded and no bad ppl being punished in an afterlife. that's why they say that "ignornace is bliss". the downside of having faith though, is that you have to deprive yourself of many of the pleasures of life and do a series of useless things such as praying, fasting etc..
    Does this make any sense to you guys?
    I hope I am not getting too philosphical here...
     
  3. kar33m

    kar33m Member

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    true, but it also true that this isnt comanded by islam or any relgion at all.
    that is like blaming terrorism on islam.
    you asked where did they come from and i answered you. the fact that it makes you sick is irrevelant.
    still you shouldnt compare them to real women. try thinking of them more as a sex toy and a loyal wife god created to reward you of leading a faithful life as a muslim[/quote]
    that isnt my signature.... :rolleyes:
     
  4. kar33m

    kar33m Member

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    you finally got it. Congratulations.
    those arent real women
     
  5. kar33m

    kar33m Member

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    I thought we had already gone over this.
    THEY ARE NOT REAL WOMEN
    and by the way stop comparing heaven to our current lives. Heven is a prefect world you wont even feel boredom. no matter how many years you spend there.
    I think that if paradise really existed it would really have been a fun place, based on how kuran describes it.
     
  6. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Occam
    It is up to you, I mean you can make your life farce, silly, Great, Cool, sad =)
    Lyric: if you want to sing out - by: CatStevens
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    And if you want to be free, be free ​
    'Cause there's a million things to be ​
    You know that there are ​
    And if you want to live high, live high ​
    And if you want to live low, live low ​
    'Cause there's a million ways to go ​
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    You can do what you want ​
    The opportunity's on ​
    And if you can find a new way ​
    You can do it today ​
    You can make it all true ​
    And you can make it undo ​
    you see ah ah ah ​
    its easy ah ah ah ​
    You only need to know ​
    Well if you want to say yes, say yes ​
    And if you want to say no, say no ​
    'Cause there's a million ways to go ​
    You know that there are ​
    And if you want to be me, be me ​
    And if you want to be you, be you ​
    'Cause there's a million things to do ​
    You know that there are ​
    Chorus ​
    Well, if you want to sing out, sing out ​
    And if you want to be free, be free ​
    'Cause there's a million things to be ​
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    Yours Sincerely,
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  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    kar33m
    Alhamdulilah, I DO enjoy every single day =)
    Click here read the first Haddeeth in blue, I think I reached that level of Iman

    [​IMG], Alhamdulilah Wa Al-Shukru lilah​
    :D Alfa Shukr, knowing Allah, Knowing Islam, After understanding islam and Allah and pondering them and their teachings and the word of Allah, After practicing Islam, walking in the way (temporary) which Allah draw it to us, really makes me don't need anything but Allah, Everything becomes seodnary or rather less than that =) I want to pray, can't imagine my day without praying:eek: !!!!!!! my soul long to pray,I live Islam, drink and eat Islam, Allah is my oxygen =) Alhamdulilah


    *Peace and love*

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  8. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    I learned many things from praying and fasting, they are very useful and beneficial, they are the food for our Soulspraying 5 times a day, Ma'sha'Allah *Beautiful* =) , when you read Qur'aan , Allah is talking to you but when you pray, you are talking to Allah, so, When the caller say " Come to the prayer , I understand it, come and talk to Allah, Don't I want to talk to Him! YES I Do, My deepest pleasure, in the mosque, we all together pray to one God in one row, poor, rich black people, it doesn't matter, it reminds you 5 times a day that we all are equal we all are brothers =) *Beautiful* e.g I decided to harm ormocke at or lie to someone at 5 pm, before that I have to talk to Allah! OH I changed my mind! Allah doesn't allow me to do so, prayers are reminders =) etc etc etc fasting *Ma'sha'Allah* it is another beautiful teaching =) it teaches me patience, to fool how the poor feels so I will help them, etc etc etc =)
    Ponder & contemplate Allah's teachings, Islam is beautiful,
    ''Do Not Judge Things or Events by its Immediate Outcome!
    Almighty, the Most High is the All-Knowledgeable, the All-Knower...He chooses to show us things... but sometimes... we are not shown the wisdom behind some things. When we are confronted by circumstances that are not very pleasing.... we are quick to say: "This is not good..." but... is it really? We might not know the purpose behind it. It might turn to be a good thing''*Qur'aan [2.216]: … it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know. [4.19]… it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good.
    *Qur'aan: [029:002] Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested. -He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds* ''and there is nothing that happens for no reason... our brains are just not gifted enough to understand these reasons yet. Sometimes ... things happen to us for a reason''.
    When you know & understand Allah you will love Allah *promise* =)
    I love Allah
    I love Islam =)
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    Islam made me A Good HAPPY human being =) I FEEL UNIQUE PEACE & LOVE
    O Allah what did he find who lost you,

    And what did he loose who found you
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    What does he need
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    Sleep, walk, live, eat & drink islam =)
    without Allah my heart won't do this anymore
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    Allah IS Allah
    (= *Peace and love* =)

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  9. cabdirazzaq

    cabdirazzaq Member

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    Occam, since when did the concept of God in islam and christianity become equivelent to each other, on the one side you have people whove mixed monotheisim with roman mythology and theres plenty of proof from the history books to back this claim up and on the other hand you have a pure monotheistic faith which is free from any unrational mixture, they can never be equal.

    Dont discuss details when the fundamentals havent been touched upon.
     

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