The truth is out there?

We all have a belief system, how the world works, how humans work, what the meaning of life is, what comes after death and everything in between. Yet where do those beliefs come from? People tend to hear only things that support their own ideas and ignore contradictory beliefs.

If there was one absolute truth out there, would it be possible to know it?

 

Where? The human ability to think.

The world is on a constant change, absolutes do not exist.

 

So perhaps the absolute's nature is dynamic, unable to be examined by the static eye of knowledge.

 

where do belief's come from? i think collectively we've pulled them out of our collective ass.

i believe everything except that anything ever to walk the face of this earth in a tangable physical body had the slightest idea what it was talking about.

and since all books are writen by our own hands, everything in any of them, someone with a physical hand set down with physical writing impliments and wrote down the words in them...

we don't know that anything HAS to exist (or not exist), even ourselves. but we do know, or can, that nothing has to begin and end with what we think we know either.

of course all that can be taken several ways, maybe i could have expressed it more delicately, i don't know, but i guarantee i DID not intend that to ridicule ANYbody.

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Reality is a dream but its real. Everything and nothing is true.

 

that sounds a little closed-minded, don't you think?
i mean, i know what i believe. but i also know there are a million+ other possibilities, so i try to keep my mind as open as possible.
i don't think there is one truth though. i think, whatever you think is true, that's what it really is. for you anyway.

 

confirmation bias is a natural tendency to give more weight to that which supports yer current belief and disregard evidence otherwise.

its why much of the irrationality, contradictions, and incest in the bible is so insignificant to the believer. its why fossil evidence (and scientific consensus) is all part of the devil's plan. and why the french are so overproud.

 

truth is not hiding behind a tree, nor behind the interface between tangable and nontangable. if it is hidden at all, it is hidden by a closed eyelid. and of course the mind that blinds itself.

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Call it what you please, but it's very true.

 

truth is subjective, it comes from within, and is different for each one of us. Whether there is any sort of objective Absolute Truth with a capital T, we never can really know, belief in such a thing requires a leap of faith. Those who have made that leap can't rationalize it or explain it to someone who does not believe, and those who don't believe can't understand it at all. I'm a bit more pragmatic, I don't think it makes any difference, all that really counts is the truth I have found inside my own heart. It doesn't matter if my truth corresponds to anyone else's.

 

independent investigation of the truth; READ the book "A thief in the night" by William Sears, here is a man that did all that investigating and it lead him to Baha'u'llah and the Baha'i Faith.

 

i think we all find the truth eventually, but our interpretation of it is always unique, just like a snowflake. its still a snowflake, but shaped differently. We all find the pattern, but what part of the pattern do we stumble upon? so yea, i think we all find the truth, some sooner or later, just in a different way and form.

 

The truth is out there?

No, the truth is in there.

 

ah. this is one path. and a good one. though i have personal reservations about anything needing to be infallable.

i do believe baha'u'llah, like moses, mohammid, buddha, christ, krshna, lao tsu and the rest of them, was choosen by something big, friendly and nontangable to represent its will to and among us, i'm just not convinced anything infallable has ever walked the face of this earth, or any other world, or ever will.

or that we would be any worse off if no one had ever come up with the idea that anything needs to be.

there is an objectively observable reality of morality and of the mechanism by which togather we create the conditions we each individualy experience, that neither requires nor depends upon what anyone does or does not believe or believe in.

trueth is what you have left when you track down everthing that you cannot be certain you're not just deceiving yourself about. that's another way of finding it.

interestingly this doesn't give me any problem with the existence of something big, freindly and nontangable, just a clear observation that much of what people believe is based on what they may wish they could know, but is beyond human capacity to do so.

like the example someone gave of the cat and the heater.

(i wish i could have started with bill sears' thief in the night when i was 15, instead of where i did with holy roller christerism. i lived in a small town and there weren't that many baha'is in those days. the nearest community having at that time been in the next county over. the first time i went to district convention, yes i have been a baha'i, we had to carpool to valencia street in san francisco because all of northern california and parts of nevada were one district. my favorite is abdu'l baha's secret of devine civilization. my wife is currently an active baha'i and i do wish the faith well)

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Depends on what domain you're talking about. In the exact sciences, there's always one clear absolute objective truth. In psychoanalysis for example, truth is subjective. Same in the occult sciences, or mysticism.
Same in life. Truth in life is relative, subjective, it represents norms of behaviour imposed by one's family or society one lives in. The truth about good or bad behaviour varies according to the epoque we live in, the family we were born in, the society which is around us.
There is also inner truth, what one feels it's good or bad, which represents one's personal values or beliefs.

 

Truth has been expository and malleable regardless of the era in which humans find themselves.A million years ago our forbearers had to carry clubs and concern themselves with hunting ,gathering and realizing that they could be turned into predator food with a few seconds inattention.The truth then was,the earth was a nasty,dirty,dangerous place.Worship of the unknown such as lightening,earthquakes,the ocean,various animal gods and fire were their truths.As time went by and we evolved,certain truths evolved because of humans.The earth was no longer flat,the earth revolved around the sun and science,art,governments ,ect,were made to be true. We know many truths about our physical surroundings and about our own lives,wherever we live them.However,we still don't know about the BIG TRUTH.Why,how,when did we get here --are we still ourselves when we die?It's ineffable,regardless of the rationales many hold to be true,in my opinion.Plenty of choices---grab you some truth and go with it.

 

What reason do you have
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to believe the Earth is flat?​

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The same reason to believe anything:

it temporarily matches your model of the world.
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An absolute mind might have a chance of fathoming absolute truth, but my guess is that absolute truth is all-inclusive.

 

truith is everywhere it is not being claimed to be possessed totaly by any one perception or belief.

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