why oh why did i ever leave??

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Tamara, Aug 6, 2004.

  1. Tamara

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    new zealand, my home, my life.
    i love you all, i miss you all, and i want all of your children.
    the all blacks are kicking ass, helen clark is really hott, and 80 graves were pushed over.
    I LOVE YOU, I WANT HOME....
     
  2. Taylor

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    Maaaaaan... you're COOL.

    Guys, this is Tamara. She actually is cool. I'm not being sarcastic. She lives in Titahi Bay and she's on shnat with me. Woohoo.

    welcome to the whanau.
     
  3. Simulato

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    The All Blacks currently seem to have stopped kicking ass... talk about depressing, exams on Monday and a loss to the Wallabies of all people... :(
     
  4. Alltaken

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    80 graves have been pushed over? when where, uggggg

    BTW welcome to the internet marae :p

    Doug
     
  5. Simulato

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    It was an anti-Semitic attack on a Jewish graveyard, I think. All over the papers yesterday.
     
  6. Alltaken

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    arr yeah i found the paper today.

    yeah there seems to be a bit of anti-semitism here of recent times.

    i don't know whether it has anything to do with hatred of isreals war on palistine, jews in general, the spys, or another thing.

    but still i don't think anything excuses violence, and disrespect, it doesn't achieve anything.

    Doug
     
  7. Tamara

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    you are right sir. i am jewish, and i am not only hurt because of that, i am hurt because it is my fucken country, and i am a new zealander.

    its probably some stupid shit heads who have nothing to do, and who want to get into international head lines, and anti-semitism seems to be fasionable lately. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
     
  8. Taylor

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    teh way I figure it is that a lot of people are anti-israel at the moment because they're anti-america and being anti-america is very fashionable.

    Also, ignorance leads to anti-semetism.

    Several of my friends had their grandparents and great grandparents gravestones pushed over. Assholes.
     
  9. FrozenMoonbeam

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    the second one was in makara...my uncle is buried there....and its so NOT cool.

    bu, on a much better note, hi tamara. If tamsyn says you're cool, then thats ka pai choice.
     
  10. Megara

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    anti semitism is waaaaay bad in so many parts of the world, and unfortunately, still bad in lots of places in europe...you'd think people would evolve.

    Although, i doubt anti semitism has gone up because of the hatred for the US...much of the hate the US has incurrred is because of our relationship with israel, and not because israel is friends with us....
     
  11. wiccan_witch

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    Is that a picture of Bob Marley looking sexxxxxxxxy??? :p
     
  12. Simulato

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    There are some evil people in this world... it's sad when you realise that sort of thing happens in New Zealand too. :(
     
  13. Alltaken

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    ok to be 100% honest.

    i AM anti-american (by dictionary defination) i am Anti-Isreali (By dictionary definition)

    however i don't think any of it has anything to do with this.

    anti-semetism, is totally different. someone can love america but hate african americans, they don't lead to one another i don't think.

    governments actions (such as the US's or Isreals) really have nothing to do with religion, or people that are already dea, nor does any of Isreal's current political tension, desirve nazi and anti-jewish retaliation.

    politics are politics, and religion is religion.

    imagine if all "christian" nations had their graves desecrated every time their "governments" did somthing that was not popular.


    seriously, i am totally ashamed as many people are that the graves were desecrated, it makes me feel poorly that these people are "representing" our country (their actions reflect us all)

    if they had any political agenda behind it all, then they are seriously stupid, because lack of respect is the first way to stop your opinion being counted.


    so everyone who was effected, i am pretty sorry that it has happened.

    Doug
     
  14. Tamara

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    thanks, hi, yes, bob marley IS fucken sexy, and we would have such cute little jewmaican babies...

    anyway, i was recently in Europe, i went to poland with my Jewish Youth group. we went to see all the holocoust stuff. now, i'm not going to get into the holocoust, and all that babble. however i am going to say how SHOCKED i was when i saw nazi symbols in warsaw, a hang man sign with the jewish star of david being hung, people spitting at us because we were jewish etc etc. i have NEVER in my life seen such a thing. i see it in the movies, i read it in books, but i have never seen or been a part of anything anti-semitic in my life. and then to go to a country where people hate you because of your race/religion is just gross.

    and when i returned from poland to israel, and thought "whew, at least in my sheletered little NZ i wont ever see this, it would never happen"

    DING DING DING!!! duh, tamara.

    hate, of anyone, or of anything is stupid. would you hate someone because they look a certain way, because they talk a certain way, and because they believe a certain thing?? the simple and sad truth is yes, yes people would. and it hurts me like hell, because this time it hit so close to home. grow up world, take a look. hate was last century. give it up now, or we will all end up blown up by some stupid atom bomb, because people today are phsyco's.

    sorry guys. i am just a very very angry person. haha!
     

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