Help fight overpopulation!

If millions of individuals adopt a similar attitude then big changes can occur. Its working from the bottom through each individual that will solve things, not governments trying to hand solutions down from the top.

 

huh?
I'm not the least bit concerned about being "hip".
Developing countries are stuggling to improve their standard of living and in doing so the environment is suffering.

Why on earth would I take that personally? This fact (and you don't need a degree or a huge imagination to come to this conclusion) is accepted and suggested by the likes of E.O. Wilson. You think it's ludicrous (listen to rap??).

ummm, yeah I agree, why did you quote me, you're not disagreeing with what I said.

 

Metro, if your saying that innefecient methods of urbanization for the third world are bad for the enviorment i totally agree, what the third world needs are better ways of producing resources, that can be better for the people and for the enviorment, science can make it possible. If we're agreeing then I see no reason to disagree... lol. I just re-posted what you said cause your beautiful.

Lover/young peace, your right on, and I think adoption is great. But why does being one in six billion make you matter? Ten billion is just a psycologically satisfying number, and it does seem big, but I'm mostly a people person, and I don't mind that many people on this big planet... too many for a room, maybe. What matters is how you can have an effect on the world, and thats the same if there are ten or ten billion people. Stay positive.

 

hahaha... thanks. You're right. I guess maybe I'm just not a people person

 

I'm thoroughly disappointed, I so love arguing.

OK, now we are officially in disagreement.
I'm on to you, your tactic is obvious, -trying to kill me with kindess. Well it won't work, I'm immortal. Ha ha
Take care, you've got a good head on your shoulders.

 

Don't worry about it, we can find something else to argue about... like I have no idea what your avatar is... :sunglasse

lol thanks... its usually a lot easier to charm your way out of a fight with a woman then to make a good argument.

 

Nuke China!.....

 

All right, that does it, you're so on my list of hipforum enemies!!
It's Bucky from the cartoon Get Fuzzy. It's hilarious, you should check it out
here

See I was right, you are smart Go forth and spread your wisdom to other men!

 

I likes me a girl who solves all her porblems with nukes.

Haha, see I told ya I could still make enemies.

 

i hope that was a joke!!!

 

I know I'm kind of late here, but I'm far too out-spoken not to put my two cents in.
Although over-population is a problem, I think it goes hand-in-hand with the problem of over-consumption. Someone said earlier that for everyone on earth to enjoy our standard of living here in the Western world, it would take four more earths. What I don't get is why we have to enjoy this standard of living? Most people would be better off and happier living more modest and less-comsuming lifestyles.
I have to say that I come from a family of five, and my mother has 8 brother and 4 sisters, so we're not exactly the typical 1.4 kids family you see here in America. Because of this, I've always wanted to have a big family. My dream ever since I was little was to have 12 kids and live a simple life. As I've grown up (I'm the ripe old age of 18 now) I have slightly modified my plan. I still want a lot of kids, but I've decided to only birth two at the most and adopt more. I still want to live a simple life, but my boyfriend whom I love and will marry is going to be a rock star, so we'll see how that goes.
~Madeline

 

I agree, a simple life would be more rewarding to me than working 50+ hour weeks to afford yachts, big homes and just "keeping up with the Jones'" in general.
I spend money, but it's on travel, sporting goods (bikes, skis, backpacking and mountain climbing gear, etc.).

 

war of course only resaults in the survivors going home and making babies twice as fast, not to mention it's unpleasanter qualities
and ignoring the problem certainly won't make it go away

i still think our best hope would be to put something in the water that would lower all human firtility without exception or bias accross the board.

it's a shame all that carbon they've found that wasn't going into the atmosphere and is going into the ocean instead isn't or hasn't yet formed such a human antifirtility agent.

yes consumerism is the second biggest problem, right after there being too many consumers.

an unfortunate political reality is that you're not going to get a majority of joe sixpacks to voluntarily give up their comfort zones.

the good news is that while comfort zones depend on infrastructure and infrasturcture depends on social organization, in no way shape or manor does social organization depend upon virticle hierarchy.

nor does infrastructure intrinsicly require unsustainable tecnologies.

refrigeration, transportation and the internet are not undesirable, but all can be provided well within the scope of known and proven tecnologies without the use of combustion for anything other then home heating, and even that from a combination of passive solar and 'bio-mass'.

there is a thing though people have about tecnology.
most people have rather unrealistic expectations, and when it doesn't gratify them and for free, there is a tendency to blame it for everything under the sun
instead of recognizing and realizing that our priorities determine both how it is used and ultimately even the directions it evolves in

tecnology and human society alike
take place in the larger context of natural realities
and not the self-serving circular pseudo-logic of economic pretentions.

we can shift our infrastructure to more sustainable tecnologies, choosing policies and priorities that encourage movement in that direction, or we can wake up one morning and the power to run our refrigerators won't be there and neither will any prospect of it comming back on line any time soon.

but getting back to population, yes a big part of the problem is resource missallocation. we could use more stone and concrete and a lot less clearcutting. we could ride battery and fuel cell powered mini-trains instead of driving petrolium fuled automobiles, the oil for which will run out eventualy, no matter how many wars are fought or natural habitats destroyed to prevent doing so.

still each and every challange is frustratingly ascerbated by our excessive numbers.

modest scale hydro could supply all our energy needs cleanly if our population were small enough. wind, solar and hydro togather still can, or nearly can, with biomass and the unmentionable nukes taking up the remaining small percentage of the slack.

i think this monster of consumerism is the same monster as political tyranny and that is simply the refusal of a large majority people to connect the dots.

build a wooden house and someone somewhere is going to have to cut down a tree. drive a car and someone somewhere is going to stop at nothing (not even mass murder) to line their pockets in the proccess of making it possible for you to do so. keep having large families and there will keep being that many more people wanting to drive cars and live in wood fraimed houses.

when we stop blinding ourselves with comfortably familiar assumptions, we WILL live in a gratifying AND sustainable world

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More people should adopt, rather than having a whole slew of kids. It would obviously help reduce the population explosion, help some of the down-and-out kids and help reduce the spread of stupid people's genes.

 

All the earth can get life, the earth make food for.

There are not overpopulation.

The problem is urbanisation, consumering and extrem inequity.

An exemple?
U.S.A represent 25% of global pollution and 4% of global population.


Please, United-statians, do not adopt full of childs before to adopting another life style: communities, eco-towns, and to reducing your consommation by recycling, etc...

you wanna be pleasant for the nature? live in a tipi and eat your own food . Don't buy products made in bigs cities of asia or southamerica. After that, you can do make a lot of babys (who will knows a lot of good experience of life with Nature) or do adopt some...

But importing masses of consumers from world to U.S.A. is really not a solution!!!

om, peace