well a friend of mine has anxiety/depression issues and has tripped a few times with acid. her trips are mostly all good, but she always feels horrible in the morning. she's decided not to do it anymore because of the warning you mentioned. do you think your shroom trips had anything to do with "things getting really bad" or was that just a coincidence? if nothing was bad about your experience maybe it would be safe to take a low dose, but who am i to say?
Was diagnosed with bi-polar and drug-induced psychosis about 2 years ago, which I am skeptical of that I still have now. Buts thats another story. Have had shrooms a number of times since then and found them justs as they always were, which was insightful, interesting and pleasant. No negative effects. With someone with history of mental illness, wouldnt reckonmend regular doses, like a handful of times a year sorta thing. Personally nowadays, I find weed worse for me than I do shrooms... Just becareful of what meds you are on cause some contain MAOIs etc... and might have a bad drug reaction. As to the mental part, I have found no problems.....
insanity is nothing more than a set of thinking patterns that destroys the spirit. i dont buy into the whole disease and disorder bullshit as at one point in my life i was diagnosed with them all. each individual is completely responsible for their own thinking pattens and the general health of their mind. if you can operate your mind in a healthy manner, then trip all you want id say. if not then dont. if your mind is unstable your trips will probably be unstable and your post trip integration will be unstable. psychedelics dont trigger psychosis...fear does.
And what do you suppose causes these bad thinking patterns.....lets see................Psychedellics!!!
your giving your power away brother man. your responsible for your thinking patterns...and if you dont like those you have change them. it takes time and persistence....conditioning...thats how the mind works. as for what "causes" bad thinking patterns, id say the society we've grown up in and its priorities, the media, our parents, the middle school bully, ect. these underlying notions exist before one injests psychedelics. and those who will never trip still will struggle with these thought loops and self imposed thinking patterns, so blaming psychedelics dosent make much sence to me. rather, (at least ime) psychedelics have a way of taking us outside ourselves and let us view our reality in an objective unbiased manner....then we come down with these realizations and its up to the individual to take control and change what he's noticed is wrong. freedom is a level of understanding....once understood it becames a matter of courage and persistance
i dint know that shrooms triggered psychosis in ur brain. but i knew that acid does that. interesting.
Psychedelics are nothing compared to meth in causing mental problems. I have yet to see a heavy meth user that isn't at least paranoid and at worst totally psychotic.
That's because meth eats your brain for breakfast. I never understood the appeal when there's so many other wonderful substances that won't permanently damage you mentally and physically...
i am not saying that i'm not responsible for my own thought patterns. what the hell does that mean, anyway? that i'm going to say "oh i thought about cutting myself, but it's not MY FAULT! i'm not responsible for my thoughts, because i'm biploar. therefore i am not to be held responsible." that seems kind of ridiculous, of course people with the ability to reason and rationalize are capable of doing so... however, i don't really understand what you guys mean by saying that everyone is "responsible" for their own thought patterns. does this mean that people who are mentally handicapped, or people who are schizophrenic, or have serious obsessive compuslive disorders, or any number of "dissabilities" should just pull themselves out of it, because, hell, they are responsible for their own thought patterns. or... are certian "disorders" exempt? maybe someone can clue me in on exactly what people mean by saying that "everyone is responsible for their own thought patterns"
psychiatrists will tell you mental disorders are a product of chemical imbalances, what iv come to believeis that mental "disorders" are a product of thought patterns, which effect bio chemistry in the brain. look at the schizoprenic...the schitzo lives in a state of fight or flight....fear, and as a result his adrenal gland releases more adrenaline than is healthy. the excess adrenaline gets oxidized in the blood stream (adrenacrome) and as a result auditory and visual hallucinations are present. depressed people arent producing the "happy chemicals" because their not happy. if they were to start recognizing the beauty around them, their brains would pump the "happy chems". ect. ect. im simply arguing that everyone is responsible for the health of their own mind. dont treat the symptoms with meds, tackle the problem. your thoughts...because our thoughts determine how we re-act to situations emotionally.
Archemetis -Respect, first time i read some organized, really smart lines. ANd as u nicly understand and say, yes of course you are responsible for ur own thoughts because u think and only u produce these thoughts BUT......- Ink_Stained_Ivy- You understood the topic from a bit diff,side. Of course u are responsible for ur own thoughts, but Thought themselves are harmful right ? even as myself i am asmart, healthy, male, who sometiems there were moment for ex. my mom prepares dinner for me and i see knife and jsut one slight though omg i could kill my mom jsut now when she goes to rest... and then i think omg wtf am i thinking.. and it only starts adn ends there... Sick ppl as in ex with shizo- they dont understand this power of selof-contorl, it somehow frightens them, pushes to act, to do what they think is right... no matter how crazy it can be. The way to solve it i think is jsut simply to talk with a person and convince him in his power , or make him see all these alternatives and ways that he can manipulate. BUy asa thogu hitself is just a though, i can sit right now and fuck pamella in my head, and thats it- good with me and others. Never hurry up wit hconclusion, always take ur time, overthink, analyze and of course if u are really normal person u will see HOW much effect u can make... Archemetis- Peopel are responsible 100 % waht they are and what they do, say, look, eat.... Sometiems they say its horrible childhood, some situation, but its only a small period of time, but they stay liek that forever or for al ogn time with out acting... poor they. Respect.
i do understand, now, what the argument is. i don't agree in all aspects, but i understand and "respect" your opinions. i also share the belief that in most scenarios, and with most people, we are in control of ourselves, and responsible for our actions. i think there are acceptions to the rule, as there always are... but hey, whatever. now that the subject has kind of strayed from the original topic, happy posting and thanks for the responses
