Hezbollah's leader's sh*t

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by catstevens, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    [​IMG]
    Well, The terrorist Bush said to the PM Blair At G8 summit:
    ''See, the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this Sh*t -and it's Over''​
    He Also said:
    ''What about Kofi? His attitude is basically cease fire and everything is settled- you know what I'm saying''​
    Hezbollah's leader's sh*t is more valuable than Bush as a whole, whoops soory, comparison here is completely wrong, 'cause Bush is NOTHING
    HUH! DEFENDING THEIR HOMELAND IS DOING SH*T
    so, if Someone wants to invade Bush's house then he should not resist 'cause doing so is sh*t???
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    AGAIN
    YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE
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    Hezbollah is A RESISTANT GROUP
    THAT WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THEIR FLAG, WITH OUT THEM ISRAEL WILL INVADE SOUTH LEBANON JUST AS IT DID BEFORE, AND HEZBOLLAH RETOOK IT
    DO NOT MESS THINGS UP
    THE MEDIA IS DISTORTING THE TRUTH ABOUT HEZBOLLAH
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    RESISTANCE IS NOT TERRORISM


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  2. Politics are awesome

    Politics are awesome Politics suck

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    why dont you just say the fucking word.

    shit.

    is it really that bad of a word? :rolleyes: god i cant stand people who dont curse/swear/whatever.

    and kidnapping soldiers located in a country that is not your own is not defending your own nation. that is kidnapping.

    i'm not siding with israel, but get your shit straight.
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    read it this way:
    and capturing soldiers located in a stolen country that is not your own were trying to invade your own homeland is defending your own nation. that's it
    BTW
    Some say they didn't kidnap them:
    So it was a battle, completely justified, that what happens in the battles [​IMG]
    Other source says:
    Huh! even if they kidnapped them, why did they do so-who started, Israel, US do kidnap too =)



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    you've got a point there.
    that really doesnt have anything to do with this.
     
  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    THEY DO kidnap =) (I have documents-read newspapers )
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  6. Haid

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    And I agree 100%.

    They killed 8 and "captured" two inside of Israel. Clearly an act of war.

    Agreed.
     
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    i'm not going to argue with you (what power-hungry country doesnt kidnap?) but that really has nothing to do with hezbollah's kidnapping of the israeli soldiers. thats like bringing up andrea yates when discussing abortionists.

    its irrelevent to what you were originally saying.
     
  8. Politics are awesome

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    I thought the same thing when I first heard it... I was pretty shocked to see that Bush discusses current political affairs when he doesnt have to. :p
     
  9. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    So how come the persistant kidnapping of other countries citizens by US forces (including allied countries such as Egypt and Italy amongst others), their forced removal from their countries to former Eastern Bloc nations that condone torture is legal and a viable tactic whilst "kidnapping" soldiers on a military mission by another military force is seen as illegal?
     
  10. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Soldiers are not kidnapped they are captured and whilst on active combat duty - especially one as protracted and aimed at the perpetual illegal dehumanisation, deprivation, ethnocide and land confiscation which has characterised the Zionist agenda since well before the founding of the apartheid state of Israel - such is both fully in accord with the rules of engagement and even more justified as rightful resistance against Israel's tyranny.

    Those who wish to regurgitate the whitewashed fabrications propagated as mainstream "news" are those with no significant intellectual enquiry to educate themselves as to the true origins of the conflict and the true guilt which rests entirely on the hands of successive Israeli governments all the way back to the original terrorist founders (many of whom, in fact, Israel happily raised to elder statesman status).

    What we see now is merely the latest in the consistent agenda of wholesale disregard for international law by an ideologically-founded extremist neocolonialist nation whose roster of crimes against humanity far exceeds all the accusations of atrocities made about Saddam or Assad or all other Arab nations combined for more than half a century.

    Worried about "kidnapping"? Go concern yourselves with the HUNDREDS of illegally abducted (from their own homes) Palestinian women and children which have remained in Israeli prisons for years with not a peep from the supposed "concerned" leaders of the western world.

    The only true victims are those who continue to suffer and die at the hands of Israeli agression.
     
  11. Haid

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    You know saying something is not a fact because it was reported by the US media is not flying with me. Do they spin it? Oh yea, but I have never seen as many people quoting non-factual information/opinions as facts in my life. If you cross into another countries territory and kill 8 and "capture" two, to me a retaliation is justified. They admited they did it. They admited they want to trade prisoners. All they would of had to do was release them and it was over but no. Then they want to whine when they are getting their ass kicked. That is just crazy. I don't know how many people buy your slanted posts as fact but you won't count me as one of them.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I love it when our commander and chief and his advisors don't have the good sense to check the setting on the microphone. Just shows how competent they are to run a country.
     
  13. LickHERish

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    That's okay HAID, from a cursory reading of your posts its pretty clear you've got about as little grasp on the true nature of the political agenda being played out outside the smug insulated and misinformed midwestern flag waving land you inhabit as you do any consistency of principle. Calling sanitised, decontextualised OSP-generated war propaganda (something the Pentagon has a long and distinguished record in propagating) "spin" is the understatement of the century.

    Try educating yourself into the detailed history of both the Zionist agenda from its inception as an ideological movement to the present day as well as the collusionist criminality between Washington and Tel Aviv which has allowed Israel to disregard over 35 UN resolutions (you know the thingies you arm-chair war lovers loved to refer to when demanding the necessity for the immediate invasion of Iraq and overthrow of its regime, cause "Saddam attacked his neighbours") for over 35 years. Funny how silent the same are on similar treatment for an even greater more prolonged rogue state, and one which even has a direct attack on a US miliatry vessel (USS Liberty for the historically challenged) in its roster of provocations.

    War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity are also clearly and factually enough set forth in the Nuremberg Principles (also originally established as international law and ratified by the US Congress, lest you are equally ignorant of such factual references). Israel and Washington before it are both guilty many times over on multiple counts. All the more in the present illegal attack by a state actor on another sovereign state's urban centers and direct targetting of fleeing civilian automobiles.

    Yet, being an American myself, who happens to have spent almost two decades abroad experiencing firsthand the impact of our foreign policies and the many corrupt lackies our tax dollars go to support (which you cozy midwesterners wont be told with your steady diet of presumptuous, inflammatory and racist Fox News/ABC,NBC,CBS/CNN corporate-owned network diatribe), I can only shake my head in pity at how much of the stereotypical ignorant indoctrinated American mouthpiece you show yourself as being to the wider international audience here.

    I don't expect any ounce of self-reflection or acknowledgement of how unaware you tuly are. Its not the mainstream "American Way" to admit that our "news" isnt the free and objective window on the outside that we all have been taught it is from our youth. Maybe one day youll actually close your mouth, put your emotive bigotted mentality on hold and go travel and learn how extensive the deprivation and inhumanity is which Washington and its "allies" have imposed upon countless millions (including the Palestinians) for decades.

    Maybe then something approaching true critical rationality might take root in that obviously fallow ground you call your mind.
     
  14. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    Although maybe our political views might be different, I totally agree with Lickherish on the presentation of news agendas in the US.
    Although every country bases its news agenda on its own population and nationality, I have never lived in a country that has a more egocentric televisual news service. Whilst in the US it never ceased to amaze me that foreign affairs matters were dealt with almost as a comedic afterthought. With Iraq the general information disseminated from channels such as CNN, Fox, NBC etc was that America is the only country with an army, the only country in Iraq and the only country with a "divine right" to military missions. With Afghanistan it seemed slightly worse - not only the re-presentation of America as the only presence in the area, but it Afghan events were hardly even reported. The same goes for many many other wars that have been fought over the past 10 years.
    The American televisual media does present some wider information occasionally, such as the London tube bombings when more information and more accurate information was given than on British broadcasts.
    The general consensus of most of the population of Britain who have experienced American TV news broadcasts firsthand is that American media lacks objectivity in so many important international events. Take the IRA examples - devastating attacks over so many years, and yet the atrocities of this terrorist organisation were hardly even mentioned. 9/10 people I spoke to in the USA did not know that the IRA was a terrorist organisation, had never heard of the Brighton bombings, Omagh nor any of the other bombings, nor that the majority of financing came from US sources.
    However they did know when St Patricks day was.

    Don't get me wrong, I love America, the country, the states and the people. I have always received a warm welcome, the people have mostly been accepting and tolerant, always ready to help another soul. It just seems that politics dictates too much of how the news agenda is prepared.
     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    There is a huge difference, very easy to distinguish
    Of course there will be bloodshed, and when you are defending it is justified 'cause you are killing the criminals who start the fight.
    Palestine
    Not disgracefully, rather brutally and barbarically
    Which goverments?
    To nuke or wipe + why did he said so, who started,what did he ment exactly huh! Isael threats Iran all the time? And when he said so he said it didn't do it :sunglasse Israel already wiped off palestanain lands :rolleyes: and now wanna invade south lebanon as it did before , This off topic anyway
    Fox news!
    They drafted into the army willingly. nobody forced them to go and live in a stolen land
    Read more, I have some links but have to look for them don't remember where they are
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    Cat Stevens
     
  16. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    During clashes, and who started :cool:
    The truth is hard
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    Cat Stevens
     
  17. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Excellent =) saving more time

    Again:
    Some say they didn't kidnap them:
    So it was a battle, completely justified, that what happens in the battles [​IMG]
    Other source says:
    Huh! even if they kidnapped them, why did they do so-who started,
    Truth is hard =D

    The US do kidnap not during clashes ;)
    you are completely irrelevant to politics =D
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    Cat Stevens
     
  18. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    NO
    There is a difference, when you do things (deliberately) you are not proud of
    Watch the both sides, western media and the Middle-East media
    No doubts, TRUE
    'cause silence encourges this, they are powerless, without ppl they can do nothing, Soldiers are evils 'cause without them the US cannot wage evil wars, so ppl who are empowering them
    PLs Avoid off topic things, Osama we ar not sure who he is exactly, many theories, links:
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  19. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Rather stolen land's borders
    Again:
    Some say they didn't kidnap them:
    Source

    So it was a battle, completely justified, that what happens in the battles ;)
    Other source says:

    Even if they kidnapped them, why did they do so-who started, Israel DO kidnap!

    Response…mmm



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  20. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Masha'Allah, what a rational member we have on these forums, may Allah my Lord bless your tongue, bless your life, bless your fingers for typing this, may Allah protect you, AMEN AMEN AMEN
    Blessed are those who understand and proclaim the harsh truth
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
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