AKC registered Maltese/Shih Tzu puppies For Sale, AKC Maltese Puppies for Sale

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by jullenwales, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. jullenwales

    jullenwales Member

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    AKC Maltese Puppies for Sale

    AKC registered maltese puppies for sale for $300 each. 2 females and 2 males available. We are now accepting deposits. They are currently 2 weeks old, and they will be ready to leave home in days. They will all have their first shots and worming provided. They are all extremely cute!! If interested, please contact Jullen at jullenwales@yahoo.com
     
  2. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    Don't breed or buy while homeless dogs die!

    by the way there are MANY maltese's currently in foster homes and shelters in need of rescue.....many purebreeds. And their adoption fees are are many times alot less than $300 AND the money for them goes to saving more homeless and needy dogs instead of putting more money in some irresponsible person's pocket.


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  3. Lady Fi

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    well said, theyve only got one post, so theyve obviously signed up simply for free advertising
     
  4. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    *sigh*

    Whine whine whine. Shelter dogs don't all shit gold ya know. While I abhor puppy-milling and tend to adopt before purchasing...the best animals are not always there. My family has gotten some real lemons. Biters, dogs that aren't housebroken, cats that have already formed the habit of pissing everywhere but in the litter box. My uncle once rescued a rottweiler and had to have it put down because it ripped their new kitten to pieces(literally) and was acting aggressively jealous when their new infant came home.

    Some prefer to know exactly where their pet came from if they plan on investing so much time and energy into it. People don't adopt children without knowing every single possible thing about them(where they came from, behavioral issues, ect)..why expect a lapse in judgement just to adopt an animal??

    Anywho, if anyone knows any breeders from Tibetan Spaniels, let me know.
     
  5. Cosmic Butterfly

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    I agree. Shelter dogs dont shit gold.
     
  6. Elle

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    dogs aren't cars....you can't get a "lemon". I've adopted dogs and cats with behavior issues....who cares. I haven't run into one situation that cannot be corrected with some time and patience. FOSTER homes are very good about learning an animal's personality, quirks, etc and most times if not all when you adopt from a recue foster home you know exactly what you are getting. since there are MILLIONS of needy dogs it's very easy to find the "BEST" one for you without contributing to the mess we've made. by the way, my shelter dog shits gold on a daily basis......i thought you knew:rolleyes: She is also not fully houstrained (and probably never will be....small dogs tend to have problems with that) and pees on the floor sometimes....I suppose that makes her a "lemon" and i should bring her back for a refund. It's a good thing she shits gold.
     
  7. Lady Fi

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    I think it really depends on the person wether they choose to adopt or not, i guess it also depends on what you want the dog for.
    Nice to hear about yiour dog elle :)
     
  8. BadBlackDog

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  9. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    breeding for any other reason then to uphold breed standard is contributing to the massive overpopulation problem. obviously sometimes people need a specific dog for a specific reason and therefore must seek a breeder but most americans simply want "pets". Shelters are not the only resourse......no kill rescue groups have countless foster homes around the country with dogs waiting to be adopted. Most of these dogs are trained in their foster home and evaluated thru and thru. obviously not all "problems" can be corrected with training....aggressiveness being one of them. But the fact that some dogs come out of shelter with agression problems is not an excuse to NOT adopt a needy dog. Because there are millions to choose from and anyone can find a dog that won't bite their children. As I've said, most rescue foster's will specify beforehand whether or not the dog is good with kids and other animals. For someone who just wants a "pet" there is no excuse not to save a life. I personally adopted each one of my animals not because I wanted a pet but because I wanted to save their lives and make their lives better as well. They are not perfect and come with some problems such as peeing in the house, excessive barking, and sometimes agression towards other animals.....one of my dogs is "chewy agressive" and growls at me when I get near him while he has a treat. These are all things I am willing to deal with. And if I did want a dog without any of these issues then Im sure I could find one in time thru a rescue. Dogs aren't supposed to be perfect.....sometimes they come with issues. Agression is one thing.....alot of people can't deal with that because they have children, etc. But that is still not an excuse not to adopt because you can easily find a dog that does not have that issue many times over. The only dog my parents ever gave away was from a breeder and she bit the neighbor kid. She was with my parents since she was a pup but she was still aggressive toward every stranger she met.
     
  10. BadBlackDog

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    Sure dogs from breeders can have issues as well especially dogs from "back yard breeders" and puppy mills. Those breeders also happen to produce nearly all purebreds which end up in shelters and rescue.

    Just because someone only wants a pet doesn't mean they should feel they have to adopt one from a shelter. All breeders end up with pet puppies in any given litter and it can be just as important for a family to get a puppy from a known background and one with health tested parents, grandparents and the such. Some people simply would rather get a dog that is more predicatable - one that they can see the mother and other relatives, no the chance is low or none for genetic health issues (depending on the problems in the breed), that the puppy was well cared for and socialized in the important early ages. Again it is important for some people even if they want "just a pet" to have a good example of a breed they have researched and decided they wanted (or have always had). My first litter I kept one puppy, one went to an obedience/pet home, one went to a pet/performance home and the other four went to be "just pets". The people who wanted "just a pet" wanted a purebred Belgian Sheepdog puppy but also wanted to meet the relatives, know they could always contact someone with problems and know that their puppy received the best early training possible. I think it's wonderful when pet owners research breeds, make an informed choice and buy their puppy from a good breeder.

    IME too many shelter/rescue people have an attitude that "a dog is a dog is a dog". Owners are encouraged top just go to the shelter and pick out a pet dog without giving any thought to the breed/breeds the dog is. Some breeds are more challenging than others and for any given situation one breed may fit in well and another would do horrible. Owners would be better to be told they need to research breeds to know what they do and don't want than to just pick out any old dog.
     
  11. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    I tend to disagree with that last part. I think rescue organizations do a great job with getting people to understand about different breeds and their different needs. All the rescues I've worked with and have adopted from have been very intent on making sure that anyone who adopted one of their dogs understood that dog's personality, quirks and any "issues" that dog had as well as specific breed charachteristics. Some shelters may not go to such lengths but every rescue I've ever been involved with never saw each dog as being the same....they were all treated as individuals with individual needs, including the type of family that would be allowed to adopt them. For example, some breeds are very high energy and require a fenced yard.....some breeds are fragile (toy breeds) and require a home without chidren or some dogs just would prefer to be with adults only. Some breeds would do well in an apartment while others would not and some breeds tend be be dog aggressive and therfore must go to a home where they will be "the only dog".......and it goes farther than that . I think that if a person wants a dog and has not atleast TRIED to go thru rescue first then that is contributing to our massive problem and the reason we need so many shelters and rescues in the first place.
     
  12. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    edit: double post
     
  13. BadBlackDog

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    Not all rescues are honest for sure. Do you think it was honest for the greyhound rescue to tell the mother of three that a dog they knew nothing about was good with kids? Do you think it was honest for the shelter to adopt a pit bull out (as a "terrier mix) to an elderly couple with a physical problems? Or get a couple looking for a happy, outgoing dog to take on daily outings and vacations to take a dog so shy that it can hardly function when it is taken out of the house, even to go to the bathroom? Or how about adopting out a dog who attacked his foster owner for no reason? Or a dog who was returned for going after and cornering his first adopted owner into a home with children? I could go on and on but I think I've made my point. There are good and bad shelters/rescues just as there are breeders. IME there may be a couple good, some ok and some bad workers at any given shelter or rescue.

    Why should a person (who has not contributed in any way to dogs being in shelters) feel they HAVE to go through a rescue? I don't understand that thinking at all. If someone wants a well bred, researched purebred puppy for a pet IMO that is every bit as responsible as deciding to rescue a dog. Again not everyone wants a rescue dog and that is a personal choice about what dog they choose to share their home with. In another post you seemed ok with breeder breeding to "uphold the breed standard but at the same time you don't seem to think anyone but other breeders should buy the puppies.

    Dogs are in shelters because people get them on impulse without thinking of a puppy as a long term family member. They are in shelters because people don't research before buying a purebred dog and don't buy from a good breeder. Dogs are in shelters because there are lots of mixed breeds roaming around breeding with each other. And because there people who have intact female dogs and allow them to have litters but don't take any responsiblity for the puppies. Dogs (MANY of them)are in shelters because due to lack of training or their genetic temperament they have developed behavior issues that the owner can no longer tolerate. Dogs are in shelters because their owners are moving and it's too much of a hassle to take the dog. They are there because some people really believe the shelter will find their 5 year old generic dog who bites a great new home. Dogs are in shelters for a lot of reasons but they are not in shelters because of show and working breeders breeding to produce future generations of sound, healthy good examples of their breed. And they are not in shelters because some people choose to buy their pet dog from such breeders.
     
  14. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    because we have a MASSIVE overpopulation problem and the dogs and cats are the victims. we have to do something about this and take responsibility to fix this problem. you didn't cause it - I didn't cause it but that doesn't mean that I should ignore it and do nothing to help.....that whole "I didn't cause it so it's not my problem" is SUCH a LAME excuse to be irresponsible. Many breeders breed purely for profit.......that's wrong. no two ways about it. and those breeding to keep breeds at standard and in existance are another thing BUT I don't see any breeds right now in danger of exstinction. There is a problem and we need to take responsibility for this .....all of us. We need to fix this as much as possbile. If the demand for shelter dogs goes up and dogs being sold from breeders goes down then you run into that old "supply and demand" thing and that's a good start. It doesnt matter WHY so many dogs are in shelters. It doesn't matter WHO put them there. What matters is that they are there and something needs to be done about it and unless we all pull together to get this thing in check, no change can ever come. For every dog born and sold by a breeder that is one more dog in cold shelter....one more dog that dies in the gas chamber....one more dog that will never have a home. If those dogs weren't being born at the rate they are being born and sold things would not be this way


    you speak as though the many dogs that come out of shelters and rescues all have such extreme problem....mainly with agression. that is simply not true. it happens, it exsists but it also exsist in bred dogs like the time i was chased and bit by a pack of chihuahuas who were all breeder dogs. you can just as easily find a dog without exteme issues (or any at all for that matter) and somtimes all it takes is a little effort to help a dog become the dog he was meant to be. AND you can almost ALWAYS find a puppy in rescue somewhere near you. My Lily was so shy and none responsive when I brought her home from the shelter and she would attack my other dogs during feeding time. a few weeks with a little love, patience and training and she is a whole new dog. the most happy go luckiest, sweetest dog I've ever known. obviously not all dogs have such a great ending some issues are permanent but that is not a reason not to opt fo adopt

    I've never in my ten years of being involved with rescue ever seen or heard of a rescue organization who lied about their dog to get the dog a home. if they say a dog is good with kids and it's really not then obviously that dog is just going to be returned anyway when the person finds out differently....either that or send to animal control or some other horrible fate. not to mention many times when a dog bites a child it is because it was provoked. little kids think its fun to tease dogs or annoy them and i cannot tell you how many time i've seen parent just allow their kids to climb all over the dog and do things to it and then act surpirsed when that dog gets fed up and snaps. thats not the dogs fault but its always the dog that ends up punished. there are exceptions to every rule but there is no excuse not to atleast check into rescue FIRST before seeking a breeder (unless you need a show dog or working dog and even many working dogs can be rescued)



    my opinion on this issue will never sway ever. so to keep this debate going is totally pointess.
     
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