Women who MUST have conquests...

i've been thinking about why i don't enjoy going out with most of the women i know like i used to. perfectly decent women, generous, humorous, tough. but whenever we go out they must be nearly naked and get as many men around them as possible. they get stumbling, slurring drunk, and call this an excuse for bad behavior. these aren't single women, and they wouldn't accept this behavior from their men.

i know how empowering it is to be found sexually attractive. i enjoy it myself. what upsets me, i guess, is the sheer desperate measures they'll go to to feel that, and the compromises they're willing to make to have that feeling again. it's like they're not secure enough in their power as whole women, and desperately need to be groped and manhandled.

i wouldn't even mention it if it was all the time. they're incapable of just hanging out and dancing soemwhere cool if they're not getting enough attention, they'll go from place to place to place until they're totally hammered and being groped by a crowd. i don't understand it, it makes me sad. and then, the next day, i have ot listen to them complain about what pigs men are, after spending all night corraling the girls and talking them out of bringing strange men to the hotel room. it's just not any fun.

 

There is only one word in the ebonics dictionary to describe these women and that word is .....................



HO!

 

well that's kinda harsh. i would just call them sad, scared and unfulfilled. every woman wants to feel appealing from time to time. but when you make it the center of your existance, it's just sad.

 

This is what happens when you live in a culture that still looks at women as sexual objects. Every woman wants to feel sexy...but some women feel that their whole self worth is dependent on how sexy men find them. It is very sad. This is such a conflicting issue...we want to be desired, but the longer we view ourselves as having to have as much attention from men as possible, the longer men (as a whole, obviously there are "enlightened" men out there) are going to view us in a strictly sexual manner.

 

these girls are more beautiful than me. i don't begrudge them that. what i do mind is playing their nursemaid that night, then their confessor the next day. trying to keep them from doing all the shit they're going to be crying and bitching to me about the next day. whatever heppened to playing fooseball and drinking a beer? i guess i've just kinda grown out of the shaking my ass portion of my life.

 

To be honest, I really do not know how a guy with any self respect could be attracted to a woman clad in gargantuan amounts of makeup and revealing brandname clothing. It IS sad.

Kudos to those who realize that if you don`t try to put out that image, you will end up finding a better type of guy.

 

now i don't know this but, i'm guessing these are probably women who aren't around the age of 18 anymore, and who probably got lots of attention at a younger age without even trying, and now as they're a bit older, they don't get as much, and just want it to be like it used to be........?


and i guess there's really nothing wrong with that, it just sucks to be the one cleaning up the wreckage everytime.... i think i'd just tell them that i can't stand doing it anymore and then stop taking care of them (but that's a lot easier said than done i know..).

ah well, ladies are strange creatures good luck!

 

yeah, that's pretty much exactly the issue. but they're only in their mid 20's. and it's not like the guys they got when they were younger were worth having. it IS a deep-seated insecurity. they're always trying to doll me up, as they would call it. i don't really need it.

 

If these girls feel "old" in their midtwenties, wait till they turn 40. Then they'll suffer from what I call "aging model syndrome"-realizing that they're not young and youthful, that all the attention has been shifted from them to the 20 year olds, and that they have absolutely nothing intellectual to show for their age. (This does not apply to all models...only models like Janice Dickinson, who at 50, from plastic surgery, has a face tighter than an asshole, pardon my french.)

 

So, here's an idea... Maybe next time you could bring a video camera, then show them the next day how obnoxious they had been... Point out the things they do that they would kill their mates for doing... That occasionally works...

 

well, you know, the problem with a lot of people who've always been pretty is that when they get older, they realize how much they've skated by on their prettiness. my older brother is a good example. everything was handed to him, always. i was the chubby geeky one, so i had to rely on everything else. now he's getting more unattractive (though still very handsome), and i'm getting better. it's kinda sad for him to have to make that transition. he's losing something, i'm not. sibling rivalry is pretty tough on him, since he's used to being the winner. i think mucht he same is going with my sister-in-law and her brother (my husband). suddenly dave is getting hotter and hotter, and she's got wrinkles and saggy boobs. she was never the sharpest knife in the drawer, whereas dave was brilliant.


what's really messed up is that marcie really does have a LOT to offer this world, and is, when behaving, a truly wonderful person to her very core. but as her sister now, it's fucking me up to watch her so desperately degrade herself.

 

I cant stand woman like that. Most woman are just so fucking weak, they dont feel like they have had a good night out unless some guy has noticed them, they go out of their way to look attractive to guys rather than just feeling comterble with themselves and they will ditch their friends at the drop of a hat for a random guy.

Ugh makes me sick, coz theres no way in HELL a guy is worth it.

 

no point in hating them, they probably hate themselves so much more, but wrap it up in false self-esteem. i think they wanna know they can "drive men wild." but i say that's a short trip, and not all that great an accomplishment. for all their beauty, they're no more successful than any other girl i see taking off her clothes, good-lookin' or not.

 

that is a good idea. i already made a point of taking their pictures, at which they've said "I LOOKED LIKE THAT!!! GIVE ME THAT, I'M BURNING IT RIGHT NOW!"

 

STOP doing this. I used to do this for "freinds." It stopped when I started having kids. No more being an unpaid psychologist to them, and their free designated driver was gone. STOP enabling them. I know you want to help. I always do, too. But it may be making it easier for them to contiue to behave like this. Just stop, and if they do continue, it isn't your problem.

I think you have a good handle on WHY their behavior is like this, but there really isn't much you can do about it. You really don't owe people who can't learn from their own mistakes (again and again) anything. It is hard, but these people tend to drag you down with them. STOP. You are too good a person to be continually used by womyn who NEVER learn from their mistakes and think their tits and pretty face will get them out of any stupid mistake they make.

Hang around with people who don't have to be baby sat. You have your own babies to raise. If their mamas didn't do their job, or they simply didn't listen to her, it is just too damn late.

Blessings. You owe it to yourself to remove yourself from people like this.

 

I dress very plain, no fancy makeup just cover up. I like jeans and shirts. Nothing exposed. And I get called a lesbian. It's a fact that women who are not "sexy" are labeled lesbians. She what is worse. I can't even be myself without worrying what people may call me. I though you were suppose to not judge.


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I don't have any practical experience with this but, all I can think of it is: Is ignorance, trying to find true love from pure lust, or is it trying to hold on to a body that will never hold on to you.

The best solution to this problem is to leave it be. They will realize sooner or later that what they are trying to search out is to be cherished forever and that is not possible unless men are attracted to them- not to their bodies.

 

yeah. i just need an entirely different sort of bunch to hang out with. the problem is that people like me tend to be hard to connect with. there's always one of us in a group. i think one thing i may do is that if we all decide to head up to durango again, i'm going to stay at the first club where the music is always good and the fooseball table is open, have a few beers, have a few rounds, listen to the band, then lock the girls out if they bring strange men home.

 

i reckon these women are just attention seekers, they need reassurance by getting others' attention. they are not happy if they are not noticed.
that shows an incredibly low self-steem and insecurity.

i'm no-one to judge cos i'm too very self-conscious (well, who isnt?) but i dont go binge drinking and snogging people and dressing like a slut to get attention. I try to concentrate in my internal beauty rather than showing my cleavage. cos after all it all starts here *points at head*

 

You know, my mother is like that. My mother is in her mid 40's, and has been steadly partying since i was about 12....thought it might have been a phase, or acting out on a bad marriage....and here it is, almost 13 years later, and she still parties more every week than I have since I turned 21. She want us to go out with get, but I cant stand to watch her get plastered and start booty-dancing with some drunk redneck fool with her leg all hiked up and her tongue hanging out. EWW!

y'all remember that movie thelma and louise? I'm fucking waiting for the horrible moment when some awful shit like that happens...minus the murder and driving off a cliff.