Marijuana Sterotypes/Stigmas/and General Outlook

What I meant was that if he is in a band and every time they play they all break out the drugs; sooner or later the temptation is going to be so strong that it is virtually impossible to say no. I am not saying impossible, but just very hard. If you are around it, it makes it harder.

 

True. The more the opportunity the more likely he is to try it. If he decides that he is straight-edge, then his band mates will learn not to offer, just as he will learn to pass without puffing.

 

It's all about how you feel about drugs. I personally was against weed and any drug for the longest time, until i was influenced by a few friends. I thought I loved it at first, but as time wore on, I began to notice that I couldn't do anything without smoking. I tried to stop but truly couldn't. Only with the help of my girlfriend and a therapist did I conquer this addiction. Obviously, smoking pot just wasn't for me. As my head cleared, I noticed that I could have just as much, if not more fun without smoking weed, and not have any of the negative effects. Though not physically addictive, weed is mentally addictive. A mental addiction can be pretty tough to break. I suppose if you want to try it, you may want to go ahead, but from my personal experience I would say don't. I did it because all my friends were, and I ended up being the one that couldn't control myself. I must add that I don't believe anyone should smoke, but if someone is going that is their decision.

 

I'm most likely going to try it next summer. I get to go to the Rainbow Gathering and who really knows. I'll probably end up trying something.

 

how can you possibly think you can relate to eachother in a band if theres one member whos got some straight edge complex going where they dont want to oppose their parents? if smoking makes the music shit to you then being in the band seems pointless; else if the band members enjoy and are profficient playing high, doesnt it make it a bit redundant and also perhaps counterproductive to have one member whos sober? unless theyre like the drummer or somethin

 

What have you got against drummers? http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

 

First of all, I'm far more "profecient" at music then they are (musical knowledge wise) and second, you say it like I'm some stuck up mommas boy. I just havn't been conditioned to being surround by drug use, that's all.

 

Are you a stuck up mommas boy? I think Bill was just trying to make a point that the other band members are going to look at you with a kind of distrust because you are the only straight guy. I don't think it is right for Bill to say you have any kind of complex though, being that he doesnt know you. I also think Bill was trying to be a bit detached and just look at the quality of the music you produce as a unit.

 

If they have any kind of distrust, or any negative feelings towards him for that matter because he doesn't smoke, then IMO he shouldn't be playing in a band with them at all

 

True. I don't think you could find any bandmates who would think differently though. It's just a natural reaction, so fuck yeah they should just make music and do their drugs and have a fucking kick ass time.

 

i didnt mean any of that. im simply readin what he said. how can you be concerned about this, if you need to be 'conditioned' to be comfortable around drugs then it means youve been 'conditioned' in the opposite direction, which is leading to this worry that has lead to making a 5 page thread - this could be considered as "some straight edge complex"

now, musical knowlege is a tool, its not music. musical profficiency is how the music sounds. if youre the star player in the band normally, maybe mixed with your straight edgedness gives them the feeling like they can take it easy n let you do the work. i dunno lots of issues can arrise. but ididnt mean anythin like them holdin contempt against this guy. i dont see why youd be in a band of stoners and not smoke though, unless you "didnt want to oppose your parents"

 

6 page thread Bill, 6 page. Do your math.

 

Is it not possible to not want to partake in drug use but still be around people that do?

 

It is not not possible to not want to partake in drug use with people doing drugs that you want to light up with and you don't want them not too anymore than if they didnt want to do drugs in the first place. Don't you agree with me when I say they can't, even shouldn't do it when around you if you approve of them not doing drugs?

 

That doesn't make any sense at all. Please learn how to represent your thoughts clearly in text so that others can understand you.

Isn't it enough for the OP to just.. not smoke if he doesn't want to? I don't believe there is any reason to freak out about band mates getting high. The most successful band I've ever been in would get high before every performance. If you can't restrain yourself from caving in due to curiosity or pressure, quit the band or simply ask them to not light up around you.

If you're making a big deal posting here for nothing, why even ask for advice. I'd smoke the shit at least once if I were you--how many lifetimes do you get?

 

pretty much what i've been trying to say is do what you want, If you're against smoking then don't smoke...if otherwize then consider it. Don't be influenced by others though, and don't worry, if those bandmates are your friends they will totally respect any decision you make. I used to smoke, but felt i couldn't control myself and was addicted, so I stopped. I stopped hanging out with my friends as much, because they smoke ALOt and I still was influenced by them when around them, indirectly though. They respected my choice to quit and I still enjoy their company and respect their choice to smoke, even if I feel it isn't the right choice.

 

I really don't have anything else to say about pot that already hasn't been said by one of my favorite comedians, Bill Hicks...


http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=Bill+Hicks+Marijuana&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8&b=0&oid=a91475b96e57ea4e&rurl=www.kludgemagazine.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo%3Fp%3DBill%2BHicks%2BMarijuana%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3D%26ei%3DUTF-8&vback=Results

 

Damn, calm down guys, I had no idea this thread would get this long. I just wanted to hear what you guys thought about the subject, and now I have and I agree with most of you, fuck everything and take a long ass drag lol I'm just trying to make myself more comfortable about everything that's all, since I've been more towards the anti-social side my entire life.