What is real?

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by Domesticated, Jul 27, 2006.

  1. Domesticated

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    One thing that I find extremely difficult is getting a grasp on what is real and what is not - in the sense of core assumptions about life and reality.

    It's very important to me, because I am isolated (no friends, no close family members) and have absolutely no sure reference point about anything. But without a set of core assumptions regarding what I perceive to be reality, how do I go about deciding desires, values, and what to do with my life?

    I am never completely certain of anything. I find that I have to rely solely upon direct experience to make what are (in my eyes) accurate assessments of the world around me. Even then, I am not sure of my own judgment. I have a very low self-esteem and often think I am insane.

    This is a difficult issue for me because it plays a huge role in social interaction. For example, people engaged in activism tend to have a high degree of certainty that what they're doing is right, and it reflects beliefs they are certain about - they are damned sure that is is true. I don't have this.

    I constantly doubt everything that people tell me they think is right or wrong, true or false, because so much of the time what people say and do is a reflection of feelings and emotions (even if rationalized as a moral crusade), rather than an accurate view of reality - if there is such a thing.

    What are good values to uphold, what are bad ones? Is healthy human behavior inherently cooperative, or inherently aggressive? Neither, or a mix of both? What is the right thing to do? These are a few example of things I wonder about. I see conflicting examples all the time, and hear contradictory messages frequently, leaving me utterly confused, wondering if ANYONE truly has a grasp on reality, and if I can trust ONLY my own judgment, as other people usually have ulterior motives, or an agenda...
     
  2. questing400

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    The only advice I can offer you is to sit and think about life. What do you find proper and good? What do you find to be evil? Only you can answer these questions. And there isn't a right answer. Those people who protest believe they're right, but there is always an entire other side that is sure they are wrong. Values and core beliefs have to come from within. No one can tell you what you should believe. People might try, but it's a bad idea to accept that. If you understand your beliefs that you came to on your own, then you will start to put things into perspective in terms of reality. Good luck on your search for the truth. And keep in mind that people will change their minds as they mature and have different experiences. Don't think you fill figure it all out now.
     
  3. BeaverKoffi

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    Hi, if YOU want HELP, I CAN give it to you. Msg me , and we will talk i need to know more details abotu u and maybe its not as bad as it seems. It only depends on ur choice to try or not...try....
     
  4. PurpleMapleTree

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    I think each persons unique beliefs, ideas, moral values are shaped by what they hear, and know, and what others tell them. You can take in what every one tells you, but, that shouldn't make your decisions... I've learned to use what others tell me... and form my own decisions. In most societies we're taught from a young age what is right, and what is wrong. Some things come as common sense, some are learned along the way. We generally carry what we've learned as children, and teens with us for... ever. This is a pretty complex subject, and has so many remote aspects, I honestly don't even know where to beging.
    A group of people can't uniform their single belief on reality, and what it is. Sure, they try, and they and have almost identical beliefs. However, everyone thinks differently.
    I think it's best to do some thinking, and find what you really think, feel...
    what are you're own ideas?... Your own values?... What is your reality?
    What do you know to be your own?.. what do you know to be real? and what do you know to be true? like in general, from the smallest to the most complex things. the mose complex something is, the easier it is to deny. but.. the sky is usually blue... and the grass is usually green, i know that.
    It's important to form your own opinion, and go with it. Or if you're spiritual, that can help guide you as well. Confidence to believe in your own opinion, and believe your beliefs is...something only you can do.
    I'm not sure if anyone can really truly answer your question.
    The best of luck to you. :)
     
  5. Apples+Oranjes

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    I often feel this way too.
    But the fact that you question reality, morals, etc. is quite healthy in my opinion. I think it is less healthy, the people that base morals and beliefs on life to what they were taught and brought up with.

    Because I've struggled this with myself, the best advice I can offer you is to rather accept this quality you have, and be patient with it, and don't become frustrated. It is wise to question things like this. It helps formulate personal opinions and beliefs separate from the things you are taught... it creates individuality.

    Some of the things I felt confused about, have subsided because the more I questioned it, the better I could formulate my own belief.

    Also remember that any belief you hold, doesn't have to be permanent. You can change it, you can question it, and you can learn more about it.

    It is not important to be "sure"
    It may feel that way, because most of the world finds comfort in feeling sure of their beliefs, but that isn't so for everyone. Sureness is a way to aleviate confusion and the trouble of having to think and process things. If you are unsure, or half sure, in my opinion, that is a much more humble way of living as you can always keep your mind open to new possibilities.

    You just have to find comfort in this part of you, is all.
     
  6. piho

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    What is real?

    Some thoughts:

    One cannot grasp what is real. If one thinks one has grasped it, what one has grasped is an assumption.

    One feels one's way. Feeling shows the way.

    Direct experience is feeling isn't it? One never can be certain what one is going to feel next.

    Having beliefs is having/holding assumptions.

    What people tell you is what is true _in certain contexts_. And yes, what people say are reflections. An accurate view of reality is what is going on moment to moment. Once one talks about this, this is a reflection.

    A good value is to value feeling, a bad value is to not value this. Healthy behaviour is honouring feeling, whether coperative, aggressive or ...., in an open, nonjudgemental and considerate manner.

    No one has a grasp of reality; it is inherently ingraspable.
     
  7. HammerTuane

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    I dont think Reality can be grasped only Felt
    What most people see as reality is a idea in the minds of people
    and we are dooing well at fooling ourselves that our idea of reality is right
    It give's us a sence of identity if we have a set of beliefs?
    Then we can say we are right..so they must be wrong
    The mind loves that it needs enemies

    i think it Can't be understood by the mind or explained!
    So i can't say any more lol

    Don't tust the mind to give you the answers
    trust your gut feeling my friend :)
     

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