Proof Of No God

Iv already posted this in mind fucks but just though id try it out on sum Younger cats...

Ponder this.

Ok. If God is an omnipotent being (all powerful being), could he create a Rock which is too heavy for himself to lift?

 

Yeah i think so all hed need to do is manifest himself as human

 

Of course not.

 

ahah Sky daddy.

 

i really think its possible because god is omnipotent, everything.. the omnipresence, could easily be a human who cant lift a rock..

 

yea i kina posted that like 4 months ago in the metaphysics forum.......check it out....its named OMNIPOTENCE....btw its not proof....

8\

 

Well I was thinking in his 'God' form.

If he can create it, he can destroy it.

 

As in god sittin in the clouds, a man... lol

 

No, no, no.

God is not a physical being.

Unless you count the God in all of us.

 

Im not getting you sitareric, if he was all powerful, no matter what the circumstance, god (being an omnipotent being) could make the rock liftable. contradicting the first creation, the rock. making the rock therefore liftable. if you catch my drift...

 

then wats up with the "god created man in his image"....if he wasnt a physical being.....

but SHHHH!!!!! your not supposed to think when it comes to religion!!!!!

 

yea I know but half the bloggers in there are christian agnostics and shit and they just get boring, they take an empirical view on everything. they all just decide that god is all powerful and that is an explnation for everything. to be honest i think the paradox arises from a misunderstanding or mischaracterization of the concept of omnipotence. its more a play on words than on fact, but interesting anyway.

 

Yeah i understand... that... but i dont think the nature of god can be spoken in such terms is the only thing, i mean what would god even lift it with? I was thinking he would attempt to lift it in one of its "10,000 forms" as the taoists say... you know

 

.....omnipotence is just a word.....thats its identity.....and weather you beleive it or not.....religions are just stories untill further notice.....(im not saying their not true)

 

still... doesent the idea of him being a humanoid figure contradict omnipresence? and whatever his form, the idea still applies;
1:The being can either create a stone which it cannot lift, or it cannot create a stone which it cannot lift.
2:If the being can create a stone that it cannot lift, then it can cease omnipotence.
3:If the being cannot create a stone which it cannot lift, then it is not omnipotent.

 

Why can't it create a stone that it CAN lift?

The whole analogy sucks because look at the earth, the moon and all the planets.

Something put them there, i'm sure.

 

It's a contradiction to the meaning of omnipotence.

If god was omnipotent, there would be no way he could create something that could surpass himself.

So that means he isn't all powerful.

Theres another option, this being that god isn't omnipotent, but did create something that surpasses him. That thing would be humanity. The very purpose of life in that regard could be to usurp god.

I don't really believe in god in that regard anyway, so it's academic to me.

 

Accretion.

 

haha but thats pretty extreme, i mean whose to say anything is real and not a creation of the mind. you are basically saying that religion is no less likely than aliens. i mean nothing is real until proved, and what is proof when we begin to talk like this?

 

I think omnipotence, and omnipresence is beyond rationalizations..

It must exist in silence to be everywhere..