What Good to the World Have Humans Done? We Only Cause a Trail of Destruction... Humans are the Only Animals on Earth Who Fight to the Death...For mere Beliefs... We may Think We're so Advantanced and Superior to All Other Life on Earth... But in the End...We Will Cause the Death of Ourselves...and the World... What Fucked up Animals we Are... Even Our Prehistoric Ancestors...Are Thought to Have Caused the Extinction of Mamoths...(Warming of the Earth Had a Part to Play) But Now...The Earth is Warming up Again...And this Times...We Humans are the Cause...With All this Advancing Technology...Nothing was Ever Thought of the Future...The Severe Consequences of Our Selfish Actions... Too Bad the Dinosaurs were Unable to Stop us From Taking Over the Earth...Like Maggots on a Rotting Corpse...
it is an over simplification to say that anything is ALL good or ALL bad. the pretence, so long popular, that the rest of the universe was created for OUR bennifit is indeed a collectively egotistical absurdity. and we have, by surrounding ourselves with artifacts, gotten away with there being too many of us. it is even absolutly true that the rest of existence would be no worse off without us. but we are us, and there's not too much we can do about that, other then to chainge some of our ways and this i believe we can do it is not because of beliefs that people fight but because of beliefs that there are people willing to be exploited to fight each other it is political opportunism that exploits this potential and quite possibly has a hand in creating it tecnology itself is mostly neutral it is what we do with it that determines what it does and even the directions in which it evolves comes back to the connection between priorities and probabilities. scapegoating tecnology won't stop people from robbing each other's calmness but whatever we might not have as a resault if no one robbed anyone else's calmness might well be worth living in a world in which no one did yes we are causing real damage, both by how we live and how many we are and there ARE gratifying and comfortable ways we could be living that would be FAR less damaging and these are what interest me more then all the harm and suffering we are causing other then that we don't need to be rather that we don't have to be at all we don't even have to give up those comfort zones so many are so emotionaly attatched to at least not entirely but it will take an acceptance of positive chainges in how those comfort zones are attained we do have to learn that harm causes suffering and that suffering includes our own that we can't just get away with however we feel like treating our surroundings we are not demigods so powerful we don't have to care the way our artifacts inable us to delude ourselves into immagining we are we arn't the center of the universe we are a part of it like every other part of the world we live on and what we do affects all of the world we live on and we are a part of that all of the world we live on that is affected i know how we could be living that we could be happy and gratified without being destructive and i'm not the only one who does the only reason everyone doesn't is that so many people don't really think about it that much i've heard people say they don't know why they should care and then turn arround and complain about the very resault of their not doing so connection between priorities and probabilities as real as any god which don't get me wrong nontangable frieds geat and small are good friends to have but the connection between priorities and probabilities that's where how we effect our surroundings comes from and from that comes how they effect us =^^= .../\...
I didn't stab, club, and burn my way to the top of the evolutionary scale just to feel guilty about winning.
it is also a bit beside the point. there is real harm that is really entirely avoidable that is being caused by not making the connection between priorities and probabilities. guilt, all guilt, in and of itself, is pointless, even as you say, counter-productive. what is to the point is not a question of how productive but productive of WHAT. and by that WE do have a choice the point of having a consciounse is not to feel bad, but to think about what we are doing BEFORE doing it! =^^= .../\...
I don't think it is beside the point. The title of the thread asks if we are proud to be human. quote: Humans are the Only Animals on Earth Who Fight to the Death...For mere Beliefs... This isn't true at all....many other animals kill for territory and superiority...which is the same as beliefs... If a monkey eats out of turn, he will be killed because he is not important enough... quote: Even Our Prehistoric Ancestors...Are Thought to Have Caused the Extinction of Mamoths... I have never heard this...what is it based on? quote: Too Bad the Dinosaurs were Unable to Stop us From Taking Over the Earth...Like Maggots on a Rotting Corpse... We did not co-exist with dinosaurs, so this is really irrelevant. We had nothing to do with their extinction...
Self-hatred is an emo virtue. Just check out all the little emo kids on myspace. Once the music scene changes that fad will pass for the next big thing. It used to be punk, then grunge now its emo. "I hate life and want to die!" "I love you Kurt Cobain!" At least Nirvana made good music.
Yes, what she said. Why feel guilty over shit that we specifically didnt do? Best bet is to evoke as much positivity as we can in our lives nad the lives of those aroudn us.
But we don't as individuals don't claim collective responsibility for what state we leave the Planet in when we die... It's always somebody else's problem.. We let the boffins deal with how to minimise the aftermath of our lives while refusing to make anything but the most minor of changes to our lifestyles.... Present company excepted of course... mud is more ashamed than guilty for being human.. And it's easy to see why.. ..... Oooh.. I get to post something I wrote many years ago.. Just a piece of Earth As you look around you, what do you see? A world far from what it was meant to be. A world trapped in a shell of pollution, That thickens while we await a simple solution. That threatens our nature, and shortens our breath. And will eventually result in our planet’s death. A world without true joy or pride, Where respect for nature is cast aside. Where conservation is soon forgotten, As, day by day, our planet grows rotten, A world with little, if any, respect, Where destruction is what we’ve come to expect. We play with nature’s delicate forces, And continue to waste important resourses. A world we tried so hard to kill, We claim we know it’s not God’s will. But there IS a fact we haven’t faced; Nature isn’t even ours to waste! But there is a fact we need to know, Our planet’s in danger, and we’re responding too slow. We need to change our present trends, So the Earth and its people can again be friends. So what about you? What do you feel? Will you be treating this crisis for real? Or do you think it shouldn’t matter to us? Because a walk outside will prove that it does. So, in a few years time, what will we see? A fish, a river? A bird, a tree?
red pandas have opposable thumbs and use them. we do, as humans, have the wrinkliest brain on this planet, that's almost the only observable thing that we do have. that and surrounding ourselves with our collecitive artifacts to the degree that many of us can actualy live entiere lives in ignorance of being part of anything greater then our own species. we may in part be able to thank the wrinklyness of our brains for that. but we may also have our desire to express ourselves creatively for it. we may even have THAT to thank for the wrinkliness of our brains. or like the chicken and the egg, each drives the other. but i don't think we've won these things. we've been giving them like spoiled children. and like spoiled children we've been abusive and irrisponsible with them. =^^= .../\...
Very. Humans are also the only animal capable of art, deep thought, a desiere to understand, compassion, conscience, and love. We're capable of a lot of good and evil, and hopefully our wisdom keeps up with our intelligence.