tim leary a sell out at old age?

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  1. Mac

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    my friend mentioned this to me but i havent ever heard about people thinking he was a sell out after he got older...what do you think?
     
  2. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    is it possible to sell out after youve died?

    or is it then being bought out?
     
  3. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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    I think ya kinda look like paul mcCartney
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    fuck i just realized i left a yogurt out on my desk for almost two hours. i hope it didn't go bad.

    Not a sell out more like just fuckin nutso.
     
  5. Mac

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    i figured it was becuase he had a more insane life and needed to calm down...its weird to think he "sold out" after accomplishing so much
     
  6. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    timothy leary didn't accomplish anything...
     
  7. somedude

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    I agree, except for making acid users seem like idiots.
     
  8. polymer

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    have you guys ever read The Antonin Artaud Anthology?
    (about the only good piece of info I got out of an anarchist cookbook was a reference to Artaud's works)

    there was a real wierdo, not leary.
    in the grand scope of things, all leary did was let the cat out of the bag (he even assisted in the MKUltra project), letting people know that this drug would flip the polarity of consciousness; of course, powers that be wouldn't want that, so they imprisoned him (and referred to him as "the most dangerous man alive"...sensationalist propaganda at it's best.)

    poor leary, he just went about it the wrong way.
     
  9. Mac

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    i think that maybe he realized that in this sort of society, that kind of conciousness expansion is too hard with drugs and people who wont understand them...people understand computers far better, which was what he preached about later in life...
     
  10. dd3stp233

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    I never heard Leary say anything to contradict his basic younger thoughts about psychedlics. I think he was trying to promote new ways of altering and raising consciouness. Leary had been talking about computer stuff since the 60's and 70's. Technology just caught up to what he had been talking about for so long. He might have felt so sort of vindication for being kinda close in his predictions. If don't think Leary contributed anything try reading some of his works.
     
  11. Mac

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    i totally think he did, why else would he be so influential?
     
  12. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    Leary was influential as a psychologist.

    wanna talk about influential thinkers, let's talk about Alvin Toffler and Robert Anton Wilson...real futurists.
     
  13. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    lol leary influentual? man the most influential thing he ever did was star in a cheech and chong movie, you're out of your gourd OP
     
  14. Zepp

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    was taht movie Nice Dreams?
     
  15. dd3stp233

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    I think Leary was more influential as a philosopher then most people realize.

    "Future Shock" seems more like a history book nowdays.

    Wilson is very influenced by Leary, he could practically recite memorized parts of Leary's books.

    "I don't want to discount that there are people whose lives have been destroyed by drugs, but are they the result of Timothy's research or or the result of government policies? Leary's research was dosed down, and the media stopped quoting him a long time ago. Most people don't even understand what Leary's opinions were or what it was he was trying to communicate. By contrast, the government's policies have been carried out for 30 years, and now we have a major drug disaster in this country. Nobody, of course, thinks it's the government's fault - they think it's Leary's for trying to prevent it, for trying to have scientific controls over the thing. He deserves a better legacy than that."

    - Robert Anton Wilson


    "Be Cool, Be Kind" -TL
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    I thought this is a funny picture of him.
     
  16. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    i think wilson was more influenced by toffler than leary, just read The Illuminati Papers and you'll see why; and future shock was one of three influential books, it is a sort of history reference (being that it was written in 1970, still far ahead of its time), more pertinent is Third Wave, published a decade later, and is still very relevant today. Many more figures in business and politics refer to Toffler than Leary.
     

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