FOX News (link) airs Most Important Interview on Earth?

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  1. Solve et Coagula

    Solve et Coagula Member

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    FOX News (link) airs Most Important Interview on Earth?

    FOX's Neil Cavuto asks whether Israel should exist and Rabbi Yisroel Weiss from Jews United Against Zionism tells Cavuto, and the world, how badly the state of Israel has f*cked things up for EVERYONE - both Jews and non-Jews.

    Rabbi Weiss: This is the view that was shared throughout the past hundred years, when the whole movement of Zionism was created, the concept ? the ideology ? of transforming Judaism from spirituality, a religion, into materialism a nationalistic goal to have a piece of land, all the rabbinical authorities said this is antithetical with what Judaism is all about ? expressly forbidden by the Torah because we are in exile by God.

    Cavuto: So, you shouldn?t have a state? You shouldn?t have a country? You shouldn?t have a government?

    We shouldn?t have a state. We should be living amongst all the nations as the Jews were doing for two thousand years as loyal citizens, people who are serving God, emulating God with compassion . . .

    Contrary to what people believe, that it?s a religious conflict, we have been living for hundreds of years among Muslims and Arab communities without any UN human rights groups to watch?

    Cavuto: Let me ask you this, Rabbi, was life better for the Jews prior to the creation of the Jewish state of Israel?

    Weiss: 100%. In Palestine, we have the testimony of the Jewish community living there and other lands that they were living in harmony and they pleaded with the United Nations, in the documents we have, the chief Rabbi of Jerusalem said we do not want a Jewish state. The Muslim, Christian and Jewish inhabitants were ignored with the creation of the State . . .

    Cavuto: Neverthless, you might not have had a country per se, but you were not a stranger to being abused or slaughtered over the millennia, particularly as recently as fifty sixty years ago?

    Weiss: There is an issue of being killed because of anti-semitism, and then there?s another issue where you antagonize and you create your anti-semitism through Zionism . . . in other words, it?s not a free for all ? you knock out your neighbors windows and yell anti-semitism.

    Cavuto: I know you are an orthodox Jew, what do traditional Jews think of that position?

    Weiss: [The mainstream Jewish view] is that, true, we shouldn?t be having a state, but once it?s created the Zionist propaganda that the Arabs want to throw every Jew into the ocean and there?s a ingrained hate against the Jews, which they?ve convinced many Jews to believe, this is why they?re fearful of returning the land . . .

    Cavuto: Well you can?t blame them, right, I mean you have the president of Iran who says the Holocaust never existed and if he had his druthers he?d destroy Israel and all the Jews.

    Weiss: That?s also patently false. He has a Jewish community in Iran and they haven?t murdered them when they had the opportunity to . . .

    Cavuto: So, you don?t take him at his word that he would try to kill Jews?

    Weiss: He would [want] the dismantling of the political state of Israel. In fact, we went, a whole group of Rabbis this last year to visit Iran, and we were taken up by the leaders, we met with the vice president, he [Ahmedinejad] was in Venezuela at the time, we met with religious leaders, all of them stated unequivocally that don?t have a conflict with [Jews]

    Cavuto: So as long as Israel exists, Rabbi, you think ? just itching for trouble

    Weiss: Jews are suffering, Palestinians and Lea are suffering . . . we pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlment of the Jewish state.

    Cavuto: It?s interesting Rabbi, you don?t hear that view often.

    ps cavuto really sounded uncomfortable.

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launc...&World&-1&Blame Israel?&Video Launch Page
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Great interview! Thanks for posting this. Cavuto is such an establishment shill I don't see how anyone with any degree of reasoning could listen to his tripe. All these talking heads know how to do is ignore the facts while talking over people.

    Rabbi Weiss, who was interviewed by Cavuto, is the same rabbi you see below in my sig.

    I wonder how many of the neocons and zionist apologists in this forum will even take the time to watch this, much less respond. Seems like all most people know about ANYTHING is what the media has told them. It's the same types of people who call Mel Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, a Nazi, simply for having legitimate questions regarding the Holocaust.
     
  3. Columbo

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    well hardly the most important interview on earth. Its a bit like a flea biting an elephants butt, for some group of nobodies to say israil shouldnt exist
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Exactly, Columbo. These JUAZ are just a public relations joke.
     
  5. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    What legitimate questions could be asked about the holocaust?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You ask that question like it's insane or wrong to question history, as if most of history is actually accurate and truthful. There are many legitimate questions that can, and should, be asked about the Holocaust.

    According to the establishment, it's wrong (and in some parts of the world a crime you can be sent to jail for) for me to to raise questions concerning:

    Lampshades made out of human skin: a lie.

    Bars of soap formed from the fat of Jewish holocaust victims: a lie.

    The chimney at Auschwitz built AFTER WW II.

    No Zyklon B (which was actually a delousing agent) used in the internment camps.

    Altered and doctored photographs.

    The Red Cross and census numbers not even remotely matching the mythical “six million” figure.

    Direct Zionist collaboration with the Nazis during WW II (including Adolf Eichmann).

    Jewish financing of Hitler and the bloody Bolshevik Revolution.

    Most pro-Israel people don't even have a clue who was behind the creation of Israel, and that many of the most orthodox Jews are strongly opposed to the existence of the state of Israel.

    People who know their stuff know that Israel was never about the creation of a homeland for the Jews. To the elite zionists such as the Rothschilds, the common Jews are nothing but cannon fodder to be used and exploited to push the agenda we see being carried out by Israel at the moment.

    Most people don't know that the powerful banking family behind Israel's creation -- the Rothschilds -- FUNDED HITLER AND HIS NAZIS and manipulated events in Germany that led to the barbaric treatment of the Jews and others.

    The elite creators of Israel knew a little something about dialectics and the psychology of conflict, and they knew that when you play opposites off against each other, you create synthesis, and it's from this synthesis which comes change as planned out by the people who were behind the conflict all along.

    Israel is a terrorist nation and has been provoking terrorism through zionism since its criminal creation in 1948. This provocation I speak of is intentional provocation used to carry out a long-term agenda that involves the takeover of the entire oil-rich Middle East, to be placed under full control of the central bankers and their minions.

    Sadly, the Jews have been used as pawns by their zionist leaders (who couldn't care less about the common Jew), and they still are being used today.

    It's time people woke up and faced the facts!
     
  7. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    You're full of shit and you know it. They have a lamp made of human skin the damn Holocaust museum. I think you'd benefit with a douse of reality that would come from visiting it.

    Keep telling yourself that.

    I'll be sure to go tell all those little old people over in the suburb next to me that you say they are all liars.

    seriously, how can you look yourself in the mirror?

    Zyklon B (IPA tsykloːn ˈbeː, also spelled Cyclon B) was the tradename of a cyanide-based insecticide notorious for its use by Nazi Germany to kill over one million people in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and Majdanek during the Holocaust. It consisted of hydrocyanic acid (prussic acid), a stabilizer, and a warning odorant that were impregnated onto various substrates, typically small absorbant pellets, fiber discs, or diatomaceous earth. It was stored in airtight containers; when exposed to air, the substrates evolved gaseous hydrogen cyanide (HCN).

    source- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

    You're an expert on photograghy and photomanipulation, I presume?

    That's because it was 10 million people. Jews, gypsies, gays, handicapped, blacks, catholics, and Russians.

    Unbiased source proof, please.

    um...not likely.


    Matt...instead of spewing your uneducated and bigotted bullshit...why don't you pick up a book, or better yet go on a tour of the concentration camps in Poland. OR, why don't you take some time out of your pathetic life and sit down and listen to someone who, unlike you, was actually at Aushwitz?
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    No. Unlike you, I have done research. Years of research. I do hours of research every day. What kind of investigative research have you done into ANYTHING?

    LMAO!!

    Really? Let's see!

    Now did you see this lamp for yourself, with your own eyes, or was it something you heard about on the bus in middle school?

    Or perhaps maybe you saw it in one of your dreams, or after drinking too much vodka?

    Good comeback. You really disproved me there.

    Do you have ANYTHING to offer except empty reactionary baloney? You bring about as much intellectual substance to these forums as Ann Coulter brings to the bookshelves at Barnes and Noble.

    Easy, I just walk in front of one and hope that it doesn't break.

    Yes, I am aware of what Zyklon B is (an insecticide, like I said). And I am also aware of the establishment version of history you're not supposed to question about how it was used to kill millions of Jews in non-existent gas chambers.

    No, I'm not. Others might be, but not me personally.

    So why do we only hear the line about six million Jews? The Holocaust killed millions of people. Period. Six million would seem to be the magic number for the number of jews killed, yet you never hear about the millions of others that died in just as much a horrific way.

    This is known to most informed people. The evidence is documented. Read professor Antony Sutton's book Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler. You can read the entire book for free online here:

    http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

    Wow, nice comeback.

    I HAVE talked to somebody who was in Auschwitz (actually two people), and I never once doubted the torture that they and many other decent, innocent people went through at the hands of the evil Nazis, which I am sure was horrific.

    It's easy to call me uneducated and bigoted when you have heard nothing other than what the establishment has pumped into your head all your life.

    Like many, you are ignorant and brainwashed.
     
  9. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    *falls off chair laughing*

    Have you always been such a pretentious, presumptious little ass? Does your family care to associate with you? Or have you been banned from all holiday gatherings and family events? Is that why you have so much time to sit around and think of outright BS to spew and build up your unwarrented ego? You think that by believeing in every single piece of propaganda fed to you by hate groups that makes you "enlightened" and "smarter"..it makes you more gullible then I could ever be. You think that by just thinking the exact opposite of everything, that somehow verifies your immense intelligence that you seem to believe you possess?

    You assume that all my education was tap-fed into me by THE MAN?

    You are laughable and sad, at best.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    See, all you can do is attack.

    You can't debate, so you attack. You are a reactionary ignoramus. If you actually had some decent attacks, you might make for a good talking head or pundit, since talking heads and pundits rely only on emotion and never facts.

    Oh, BTW....

    When you find a picture of that lampshade, or anything from the Holocaust Museum's website that confirms its existence, be sure to let me know.

    Thanks!
     
  11. pagansrule!

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    Don't waste your time with Rat, according to him, there's an international conspiracy between the Jews, Freemasons, Communists, Capitalists, Liberals, Conservatives, and of course the Roswell aliens. Notice how he feels that all of his ideas are self evident and therefore immune to real scientific scrutiny. He never mentions the credentials of his sources(if he presents them) nor does he propose solutions to his grandiose schemes. He's just like any other fundamentalist, beliieving that anyone who opposes his beliefs are obviously not "informed."
     
  12. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    The Roswell Aliens are involved?!!!

    RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!

    :p
     
  13. amp7325

    amp7325 Visitor

    *ahem*


    Anyway, I thought it was a great interview.
     
  14. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    Oh wait, Pagansrule..don't forget the Illuminati Space Lizards who hitchhiked with Overlord Xenu and helped inplant all of us with dianetic chips.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't remember saying anything about a conspiracy involving "Roswell aliens". If you want to point me in the direction where I said anything about a conspiracy involving Roswell aliens, I would be glad to look at it, and, if what you say is correct, gladly admit I am wrong.

    The thing I don't understand about you people is that if you're so obviously well-informed and have all the facts, why is all your effort in responding dedicated to derisive remarks attacking me?

    It seems that whenever people don't have the facts to debate what I bring to the table, they instead resort to mocking me as being a conspiracy theorist, with talk of conspiracies involving lizards and space aliens, as if I embrace these theories which in no way have to do with me or what I believe to be true.

    Nice way to attempt to discredit someone while avoiding having to respond with intelligence -- a diversionary tactic.
     
  16. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Dude wtf are you talking about, its an organization of legitimate jewish people that are against the state of Israel....they receive a RIDICULOUS amount of less airtime than jews do who call for destroying Iran and Syria and giving Israel the right to do whatever they want...how can you call a legitimate organization who doesnt acsk for any attention at all a PR joke? yet you call people who call for the destruction of ALL the middle east for Israel legitimate...thats sick.
     
  17. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    To say that there are a few rabbis who object to the state of Israel on religious grounds represents the mainstream of jewish thought isn't true.

    I've seen black americans interviewed (I think one was on fox news, although that's beside the point) who said slavery was overblown.

    That's not to compare the Rabbis to racists, becauses in their strict interpretation, other parts of biblical prophecy must be fulfilled before Israel can be founded.

    I'm just contending that the opinion of a very small group of Jewish people can't likely be grounds for 'the most important interview on earth.;
     
  18. pagansrule!

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    What I'm trying to demonstrate, is the need for you to establish the credentials of your views. Stop telling us we aren't "critical thinkers" and that we're just part of the system. Ultimatley Rat, you are no closer to the truth than any of us are. In the end, the facts and ideas you present are still within the orbit of "the elite" and are still subject to their actions. I'm almost always wiling to listen to the ideas of others as long as they don't talk down to people or asume that they are stupid. You have to understand that the voices of a few extremists here and there cannot possibly invalidate the entire mainstream and that we're not all brainwashed. case and point with the anti-Zionist rabbis. Sure, a few non-mainstream Jews may be against Israel, but do their words really outweigh the voice of every other Jew in every other denomination? Complete the equations you lay out, present plausible solutions, not just more problems.
     
  19. Mac

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    youre both paranoid and believe too much.. grow up. youre in your mid to late twenties...
     
  20. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    And you're only 18...I don't know if you have the ability to make a statement like that.
     
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