Odd shaking when going to sleep?

Discussion in 'Dreams' started by secretservgy, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. secretservgy

    secretservgy Member

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    Its gonna be hard for me to recall this, as it happened over a few days. So two days ago i was trying to do astral projection, of course taht didnt work, then i ddi some lucid dreaming, which almost worked. But yesterday i went to go take a nap, and before i went to sleep i kept like shaking, i have no clue, about every 10 seconds, i was in a less then totally consious state, but not sleeping, and i wasnt cold either. Anyone know what this was?
     
  2. myself

    myself just me

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    What is astral projection?
     
  3. secretservgy

    secretservgy Member

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  4. Masterdecoy

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    Seek medical help, maybe a head shrinker, but if you are shaking well there you go
     
  5. Masterdecoy

    Masterdecoy Member

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    Btw that was a joke so please don't take it to heart lol
    Look I'm not to big on the whole tring to get out of my body thing here, I'll have plenty of time for that when I'm dead lol in the mean time focus on your life and the life that is surrounding you daily, take it in and be happy, Smile for a moment
    it does everyone good =)
     
  6. secretservgy

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    all righty! sounds good
     
  7. ETJ

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    The shaking you experienced was probably related to what's called the 'myoclonic jerk'.This is the sensation that people usually relate to a falling sensation,or being shook awake.It is noted brain function in this stage of sleep and interestingly,a high percentage of lucid dreamers report having the shakes or the jerk prior to the dreaming episode.Happens to most people from what I can gather.
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I've had the same experience under hypnosis. It's quite a "jarring" experience cause you can't really control it. You don't have any control over your body at that moment. So to me it seems that the "awareness" we have under hypnosis is that similar state between wakefulness and dreams. :)
     
  9. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    awesome, i've had that happen to me, usually i'm super tired after standing up for a long time (instead of lying in bed or sitting) and then lying on my stomach to fall asleep, and i get a falling sensation that makes me jerk really hard and i wake up... doesn't happen often though.
     
  10. skip

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    I wonder if that's also a similar thing to the 'death rattle' that people supposedly do just before death.

    I think it's the ego trying to maintain control over the body.

    As you fall asleep your ego must reliquish control and let the autonomous system take over.

    Same thing happens in hypnosis, which tells your ego it's time to sleep, so it reliquishes control.

    Likewise in death the ego must finally let go...

    In each of these situations it's an ego death/sleep (like an Acid trip too). But when the ego does go, what is left? What is that part of ourselves that remains open to suggestion under hypnosis, and dreams, and possibly remains active AFTER OUR BODIES HAVE DIED?

    Is it our soul? A part of us that exists free from ego? The part that reincarnates into another body, thus creating a new ego?
     
  11. themnax

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    well i think that's more a matter of loosining the constraints of arbitrary expectations then anything 'going' away. i mean, what is ego but a vail between our true selves and the diversity of tangable and nontangable alike. i mean the true self; awairness, needs the ego as a kind of shield, to survive in our mundane waking world, but in sleep and perhapse death, there are not these causes of insecurity that we cling to it to protect us from. ego is not so much an entity as a protocal, one learned through enculturation, though most of us forget having learned it, often do to the proccess having been too painful and so it tends to be occluded.

    =^^=
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