9/11 Loose Change Vid

I just watched the first 50 mins of it...It's really good.I'm gonna watch the rest later.Thanks for posting the link!Everybody should watch this!

 

I don't really like the way anthony J. Hilder presents himself...

 

Things are getting even stranger. Jones initially concocted the thermate demolition theory to try to account for sulfur found in a steel sample of the WTC while ignoring the copious amounts of sulfur in the building materials, tires, plastics, and diesel fuel. Now Jones, having finally realized that thermate isn't used as a cutter charge in demolitions, has come up with a mythical device that he claims allows thermate to be used as a cutter charge. He's now claiming that these devices were planted all over the towers and triggered in sequence to make them collapse.

The infighting is getting fierce in the 911 conspiracy forums. Each group is accusing the others of not being far enough out on the fringe. It's interesting to watch them melt down. They never had tolerance for rational minded people, and now they don't have tolerance for their fellow conspiracy colleagues. It's not surprising that the general public sees them as lacking credibility.

Here's a couple of articles about Pierre Salinger syndrome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Salinger_Syndrome

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/12/twa.conspiracy/index.html

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Shaggie, the 9/11 truth movement is more together than ever, so many people are coming to the realization that this was an inside job. 42% of Americans think that the investigation should be reopened, you can't deny this so you can come in here and be a shill and try to kill all our hopes shaggie, but your tactics aren't working sorry bro...also how do you know that there is fierce infighting in the 911 forums, do you go around looking at forums all the time? why do you do this, why should we trust you unless your a paid shill who goes around looking at forums all day, if that's not the case I don't know how you would know there is fierce infighting in 911 truth forums, i see stupid bickering you see in every forum but for the most part people are always friendly.

 

do you have a source on this? im sure that 42% of americans probably believe in santa clause as well......

don't you think that its kind of hard to believe that our own country did this when al-quaeda has taken responsibility for it? wouldn't they want to reveal the truth (im sure they have smart enough engineers to figure out it was a conspiracy)? Im sure they (al-quaeda) would love nothing more then to further demonize the west by saying that 9/11 was a conspiracy, but i guess none of the al-quaeda members have watched your video.......

 

42% of the public want the commision reopened, and 30% of it can't name when the September 11th attacks were.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1980410,00.html

Was 42% a scientific poll? Moreover should we draw our opinions based on opinion polls?

I'm debating this in another thread, so I don't really want to get into it here to avoid repeating myself.

Heres a little video about (among others) Dylan Avery. It shows his "dedication to the victims of september 11th."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7216643725166640147&hl=en

 

actually lodui yes it was scientific, it was done by zogby and was not an internet poll, rather they called houses across the country at random.

 

Well personally I wouldn't have a problem reopening investigations if they yeilded anything either. I don't know how much more I would expect investigations to yeild though.

 

Have you ever heard of AV brown Lodui? THis is a company whose largest members put record high put options on American Airlines and United Airlines on the days leading up to and on 911. This company is headed by a man named Buzzy Krongard...he is #3 at the CIA...i am not saying he had a hand in the attacks but he definitly could have known from what he's seen and heard from other CIA agents that a terrorist attack was imminent on that day and he made a profit off of it along with many other companies such as AIG...if a new fresh investigation JUST uncovered this and only this and got Buzzy Krongard under oath to testify, we would have accomplished SOMETHING. How about Cheney? Norman Mineta, a Transporation Secretary was at the pentagon with cheney in his bunker. a young man came in according to his testimony and told cheney "Sir, the plane is 30 miles out, sir the plane is 20 miles out, sire the plane is ten miles out, do the orders still stand" and according to Mineta, Cheney whipped his neck around and said "have you heard anything to the contarary?!" and whipped his head back again...then the plane hit the pentagon. This SOUNDS like the order was a standdown order, to not shoot anything coming towards the pentagon, but we can't be sure, so a NEW investigation should put CHENEY UNDER OATH IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (as opposed to his testimony to the 911 commission where not a word was to be written on paper, no reporters, locked doors, no under oath, and no cameras) and he should be asked about this and we can figure out what the hell Norman Mineta was talking about, cuz that DEFINITLY sounds like a standdown order to me, i dunna about you...

 

This was a scientific poll, but even they can be deceptive. Fortunately, Zogby not only did this one, but they explained the results, and even provided the exact wording to the questions causing such a stir. In polls like this, wording is everything. Read carefully.

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=231

 

I'll respond to this in the 9/11 scholars thread to keep from jumping around.

 

Good point, the wording of a poll completly effects outcome.

I saw on Penn and Teller a pollster get two different answers to basically the same question by asking.

Do you think illegal immigrants get to many social services?

Resounding yes.

Do you think illegal immigrant should be denied emergency care?

No.

Do you think illegal immigrants childrens should be kept out of schools?

No.