i was wondering if anyone if anyone has had any personal experences with eith of these chemicals. i have been doing some rresearch and it seems like 2ct2 has too much nausea / body load to worth trying out. any one have any personal expenecies that they could inform me about any info would help out in a desicion thx
I found that while methylone is fantastic it wears off very quickly leaving a long, speedy and uncomfortable comedown. The after effects are also quite nasty for me, depression, anxiety etc. 2c-t-2 is something I haven't tried yet but would very much like to.
ya it seems like methylone is like weaker mdma. i rather eat some mdma 2ct2 -- i hear is introspective (good) but nausea and body makes me question this chemical. i have done 2ce and 2ci and Doc , dob, of the phens, so i rather stick with 2ce if 2ct2 isnt better
Not weaker and still noticeably different. (In fact I prefer the feeling from the peak of a methylone experiece to MDMA.) The duration is just substantially shorter.
I would describe 2c-t2 as somewhere between 2c-i and 2c-e. I like it, and methylone as well, though it is probably cheaper to stick with X.
methylone can be very expensive per dose, where as 2C-T-2 is dirt cheap, but if $ is no issue methylone can be great fun. 2C-T-2 is one of my favourites though, Id recommend giving it a try
i now have acces to 2ct21 and 2ct2. damn it seems like i dont have enough time to read about all these chemicals. i spend hours reading about them but rally the only way to know or understand them is to try them. i dont have alot of money but have access to about 15 different chemicals i just want to make the right purchase (for my pet rat of course). i dont want to get him a mediocore chemical thats all. i want to find out which ones re better than others thanks for your help guys feedback is appreciated
^^^^Dude get the the 2ct21, omg that has been my favorite since I tried it back in 2002. IMHO it is way better than the 2c-x's(maybe not 2ce) an the other 2c-t's. I've been keeping an eye out for it from the few sources I have, but haven't seen it since the pre-web tryp days.... Damn!!! You, my friend... are a lucky man, get the 2ct21 and you wont be sorry. :X
2c-t-2 is quite interesting, but the trip is not easy to handle. I have done it twice years ago, and didn´t have the urge to do it again since then... On methylone, there´s almost no chance for problems to occur. It´s like "MDMA light", duration 1.5 - 3 h, recommended dose for a beginner is 140-170mg. Talking is easy, associating is easy, everything is just easy (but be careful: you will also feel almost no pain any more... avoid anything, that could hurt you physically). The body load is not so intense than with MDMA, but you will also miss the "window opens" effect from MDMA. And you´ll keep complete control over yourself and your environment. I´ve also noticed an increase in mathematic and logic skills, after the plateau has been reached (Sudokus become very easy...). Additional doses should not exceed 100mg, for the first one, 50mg at the T+2.5h point is far enough. Maybe one more at the T+4h point (70-100mg). Be sure to drink enough! 1 liter per hour is minimum! Get some feed for your eyes - you´ll love the colors and shapes! And music: trance is a very good idea, but I´ve used lots of different kinds of music when being on this substance... good bands are: Chemical Brothers, Star Sounds Orchestra, Akasha Project, Banco de Gaia and musicians alike. On the coming down, smoking some cannabis will be very pleasant, but the combination of the 2 substances will kick your trip again for 2-4h. I also like Methylone for combos with 2C-xs, especially 2C-E and 2C-B (look for the thready on this subject, I´ve posted quite a lot about it there). Imho, Methylone could be an excellent tool for psychotherapy; short lasting, easy too handle, and not so much euphoria without any self-criticism like on MDMA. And some very interesting insights. My wife and I have used it several times to work through problems. And I know some psychotherapeuts, who already use it on patients (very successfully!). To get best effects, keep your blood sugar as low as possible (if possible, avoid eating at least 6 hours before the experience). Avoid alcohol; it weakens the Methylone (and is a dangerous combo). Have a toilet in reach; you´ll need it quite often. Observe, that you´ll build up a tolerance very fast. Even taking it on 2 consecutive days will result in noticable loss of potency. Drug free intervals should be at least 1 week, better 2 or 3. If you want to help your body, take 1 capsule with 50mg 5-HTP 1 hour before you start, one right in the middle and one on the coming down (this will restore your serotonine reserve, to avoid subdepressive episodes during the days after the experience). P.S.: I was on 160mg of methylone, when I wrote this...
That depends... If you order from the well known internet resources, you should calculate at least €50 per gram. Look out for email-based resources, they´re often much cheaper (at my favorite supplier, I pay €25 per gram, less if I order larger quantities).
flow- thanks for all the greta info on methylone. it sounds like somehing i would defiently want to try
i just tried 2ct2 for the first time a couple days ago. i didnt experience any nausea at all, and i even ate a deer hot dog. i find it better to eat maybe an hour or two before you do it because i got real hungry into my trip. i took 20mg for my first one, and i redosed about 9 hours later with 25mg. i enjoyed every bit of it, and it did give me a body buzz / body load but it good. i probably had more control over my thoughts and actions with 2ct2 than i would with marijuana. fun stuff!
the only thing ive tried related to that was 2c-i which i had a SEVERE INTERACTION WITH THC it was like this 2-2.5 hours in heaven(smoke 2 bowls) 5 hours in hell.
Yep, some 2C-xs have the nasty habit, to increase the THC effects (and vice versa). Be careful with that, and never smoke too much if you want to use THC to come down from a trip... at least until you´ve found out, that the combo´s no problem.
Flow: would drinking some beer on the comedown from Methylone (when you don't care if it weakens the effects) be a problem? What, specifically, do you mean "a dangerous combo"?
^^^^Dude, it's cool to drink on methylone if your just sitting around and not expending too much physical energy, but I have found that I can handle way more alcohol than usual and won't even notice the alcohol until the next day.