Have you noticed christians especially suffer from a false hope. They think that one day god is going to come back and bring them to heaven for a 1000 year reign, or that when they die, they will have manchines in heaven for their good works. Well the good works after they get "saved". I feel sorry for them, I mean their wasting their lifes worshiping an invisible concept, thinking they will get rewarded for it in the end. Thats why i choose atheism, besides the illogical and unreal beliefs of christians, it gives false hope in life. Like a kid can be born then his parents will tell him to trust in jesus and worship and follow god and he will get his rewards in heaven. So he drops out of school,becomes a missionary, and dies and gets nothing. Who agrees? I mean come on this life is the only thing you can be absoloutely sure of! If someone wants to use god as a way to get through life thats great but its kind of false hope. But in the words of john lennon "whatever gets you through the night"\ I like to use things that help me get through the day for real that i know is real not faith, like music,friends,girls,weed,getting drunk on weekends. It may sound kind of "immoral" but whatever its real it gets me through life.
Yes But athiesm is no answer.. it is a reaction against thiesm Agnosticism or 'i dont know' is the only logical path humans know. Occam
Some people need the comfort, support, and hope religion brings. I'm sure it is easier for some to lose a loved one when they believe they will be reunited with them one day. I'm sure one's own death may be easier for some to approach when you think there is life after death. While I think many of the consequences of our religious nature are unfortunate and detrimental to society, I can see why so many people flock to it.
i find comfort and hope in diversity being the nature of reality. even though i also find there great discomfort and even at times, stark raving terror. i find the chauvanistic pretentions of theocratic dogma annoying, but make no connection between them, and all the wonderful diversity of unknowns that almost certainly exist. what i find most annoying about them is the encouragement people find in them to deceive themselves as to the real causes of suffering and harm and how they might otherwise be learning objectively and truely how to actualy avoid causing them. =^^= .../\...
I certainly agree with what you are saying, but I do think religion in relatively few ways can be positive. If someone needs that belief system in order to live without anxieties and accept their own death, then I don't see anything wrong with that. It's when all the negative aspects of religion come with that package creates social problems that it becomes a negative issue.
well how about a brief generalazation of gnosticism, being that one can know there is something he is part of, something greater then he can fathom, but still not knowing exactly what it is what exactly would be the major distinction between a gnostic and agnostic? you could still be an agnostic gnostic right? you dismiss the existence of gods because they are unknowable and irrelevant to life, but still strive for that understanding gained through personal experience, relief from the ignorance and mundane, basically religion wouldn't you say? I mean, I myself don't beleive god or and deity has control of our lives, but to think they didn't leave something behind for us to live by, a set of moral codes inside all of us, and we have an ability to connect to it through reason and logical human thinking. I sorta see it as this, also pertaining more to the question... God created us, and we are living inside an infinite reality, sort of like a computer, a streaming fucntion, a streaming energy, a consciousness of numbers forever changing to suit the program - reality - it is running. So yes, there may have been an entity that created the computer, but after creation, the only thing that lasted was the code he left in the computer, constantly manipulating. So I don't really see an end justifying the means, i see a constantly fluctuating pattern, trying to regain its original shape by deleting all the virus's and spyware that are constantly appearing to regain the perfect state of performance. There is no end when you think about it, because what is end? To us it is termination, cessation of what we know would be the end. We could say eventually the balance changes, and the means become less tainted by impurities, sort of a like a yin and yang kind of thing. Now to us, the end justifying the means would be the wars we see and all kinds of other atrocities. But think of what kind of scale your looking on. The end justifying the means could be a number of things, but to us it is only a brief moment of change, a pattern we all effect determining the overall change. I would hope we all would make a postive change in our lifetime by following the narrower path, but many don't. So to me, I basically see a person living a life trying to be as uplifting and positive as possible to try and duplicate that into the rest of human collectiveness. The universe is infinite, all we can hope is that there is a positive side we all will witness in the near future, not necessarily to be the end to the means, but forever out weighing it correctly. Oh, and Bill Gates did say the human brain operates in binary fashion.
the true hope comes from diversity being the nature of reality. i don't dismiss the possible existence of anything, only acknowledge the improbability of unknown nontangables resembling closely a majority of what are pure speculations about them. =^^= .../\...
