Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime

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  1. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime

    Eighth Circuit Appeals Court ruling says police may seize cash from motorists even in the absence of any evidence that a crime has been committed.

    [​IMG]A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that if a motorist is carrying large sums of money, it is automatically subject to confiscation. In the case entitled, "United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit took that amount of cash away from Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez, a man with a "lack of significant criminal history" neither accused nor convicted of any crime.

    On May 28, 2003, a Nebraska state trooper signaled Gonzolez to pull over his rented Ford Taurus on Interstate 80. The trooper intended to issue a speeding ticket, but noticed the Gonzolez's name was not on the rental contract. The trooper then proceeded to question Gonzolez -- who did not speak English well -- and search the car. The trooper found a cooler containing $124,700 in cash, which he confiscated. A trained drug sniffing dog barked at the rental car and the cash. For the police, this was all the evidence needed to establish a drug crime that allows the force to keep the seized money.

    Associates of Gonzolez testified in court that they had pooled their life savings to purchase a refrigerated truck to start a produce business. Gonzolez flew on a one-way ticket to Chicago to buy a truck, but it had sold by the time he had arrived. Without a credit card of his own, he had a third-party rent one for him. Gonzolez hid the money in a cooler to keep it from being noticed and stolen. He was scared when the troopers began questioning him about it. There was no evidence disputing Gonzolez's story.

    Yesterday the Eighth Circuit summarily dismissed Gonzolez's story. It overturned a lower court ruling that had found no evidence of drug activity, stating, "We respectfully disagree and reach a different conclusion... Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity."

    Judge Donald Lay found the majority's reasoning faulty and issued a strong dissent.

    "Notwithstanding the fact that claimants seemingly suspicious activities were reasoned away with plausible, and thus presumptively trustworthy, explanations which the government failed to contradict or rebut, I note that no drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records were recovered in connection with the seized money," Judge Lay wrote. "There is no evidence claimants were ever convicted of any drug-related crime, nor is there any indication the manner in which the currency was bundled was indicative of
    drug use or distribution."

    "Finally, the mere fact that the canine alerted officers to the presence of drug residue in a rental car, no doubt driven by dozens, perhaps scores, of patrons during the course of a given year, coupled with the fact that the alert came from the same location where the currency was discovered, does little to connect the money to a controlled substance offense," Judge Lay Concluded.

    The full text of the ruling is available in a 36k PDF file at the source link below.

    Source: [​IMG]
    US v. $124,700 (US Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit, 8/19/2006)
     
  2. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    thats fucking BS. seriously. fucking gov't. fuck that shit
     
  3. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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  4. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    It has been on the books for some time now that any amount over $9,999.00 you must have a letter from the bank (some sort of IRS form) confirming the orgin of the money.


    Yes it is BS!
     
  5. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    I don't have any bank account so my money is always on me
     
  6. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    It is very very much bullshit.

    Although the guy should have known better. What happened to him is one of many complications that he could have had if he was driving around with 120 grand. Wreck, Fire, theft, police.

    If it did have legitamate use, he is the one guy who's going around with 120 grand in cash that had a legit reason.

    It's still very wrong, and I hope he appeals it.
     
  7. vinster

    vinster penis wrinkle

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    That is fucken rediculous
     
  8. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    wow. that made me mad and sad... i agree with what lodui said.
     
  9. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    When we went to the Tulsa OK gun show last year between the 5 of us there was over $40K in the vehicle. Without that little peice of paper they could take it from you.
     
  10. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    Lets give it up for the US government!!!! fucking pigs
     
  11. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    Coud this have been avoided?
     
  12. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    Yup but requires paperwork.
     
  13. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    I always knew it was illegal to leave or enter the country with mad bills, but.....
     
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