Should women always be respected?

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by johnschlong, Jul 31, 2006.

  1. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    so does that mean you're going to stop watching it now... now that you realize you're encouraging women to "prostitute" themselves?

    this woman is not encouraging men to cheat on their wives or watch her 24/7 (at least i hope not) so i don't think she's doing anybody the harm that cocaine would do and i don't think you should compare the two. and there is so much shit out there that is bad for you but ppl sell it to you anyway... do you curse the makers of junk food? and there are plenty of straight guys out there who do not look at porn because of moral reasons.. if you don't like it that much you need to stop looking at it, because looking at it just encourages the makers of it. if there's no customer base then the goods don't sell and they'll stop being made.

    i don't think she's a prostitute at all. she's not fucking the men, she's not even in person in front of them like a stripper, she's on webcam (in the safety of her own home most likely) have you watched one of her shows? do you know exactly what she does?

    i'm thinking maybe you have a very guilty conscience and are placing the blame on the ppl who produce the porn you are addicted to... if that's the case you really do need to do some personal exploring... maybe see a therapist. sex is healthy as long as it doesn't take over your life
     
  2. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    You're missing the point almost entirely, The point is that you get off to pictures of women you deem to be prostitutes, and have no respect for. Of course guys don't ask for money to jerk off to porn, but they do dish it out, lots and lots of it. But whats more debassing, being an object of desire, recieveing funds and having little or no attachment to what your doing?...or being the one whos lusting after it, dishing out money to feed their desires for a temporary gratifiction with no lasting effects? I also disagree with yoru analogy on cocaine. The reason there are drug dealers and gangs, is because societty has deemed drug use to be unacceptable, despite its large prevalence. If drugs were decriminilized and we could all make our own then there woudlnt be these violent dealers and gangs....just like porn, masturbating is a no no but is generally accepted as a common prevalence in societty, where as making porn is being compared to being in a violent drug gang....if societty (you) were more accepting of the fact that end users aren't the saints and producers arent the demons and it became socially acceptable to make our own, then you wouldnt be feeling the way you feel about your friend who you claim to love.

    i also hope that no one i love has to become a prostitute to become self sustaining, but i don't consider porn to be prostitution...also if prostitution was legalized and had government controlled regulation and wasnt synonymous with drug use, stds, and later death then i wouldnt be so opposed to someone i love becoming a prostitute.
     
  3. Raving Sultan

    Raving Sultan Banned

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    Blaming Jenna jameson for your wanking habit is like blaming mcdonalds for making you fat.
     
  4. johnschlong

    johnschlong Member

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    Ok, some people here are quite confused:

    1. I and many others have never paid for porn; it's just out there, for free
    2. I and many others are not at all addicted to it; you just watch it, occasionally
    3. there's a big difference between doing that, and actually spreading your legs for the entire world and asking money for it, which is prostitution

    I don't see what's debasing about watching porn now and then, but I do think that it's debasing for a woman to spread her legs for the highest bidder and making her fulltime job out of it.
     
  5. Kiyohiko

    Kiyohiko Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I agree with you, actually. I prefer to enjoy women based on the merits of their own personality, humor, and intelligence. Other aspects are for the most part reasonably inconsequential to me.

    I've seen the pedestal thing in conversations here as well as the 'treating them like dirt thing'. I find both perspectives frustrating because it puts them at the opposite extremes.

    I have a sort of 'default' mode of basic human respect that I give all people, and what they do with it is sort of up to them. True respect from me comes from being around that person, day in, and day out, and watching them make decisions on a daily basis that repeatedly show compassion, honesty, intelligence and the ability to handle difficult situations with grace. You know, outstanding character stuff.

    For the most part, I don't feel the need to hold the genders to different standards when it comes to giving respect.
     
  6. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    This is silly, she's not even your girl friend why does she have to discuss how she wants to make money with you or any of her friends?

    I wouldnt want any of my friends to be prostitutes but not because i'd stop loving them... i'd just worry about them.
     
  7. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Women who are respectable should be respected. [​IMG]
     
  8. I'm a Romantic

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    Respect should only be given to those who give and respect themselves.
     
  9. dances in pajamas

    dances in pajamas strange little girl

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    Prostitution is a business with a lot of physical risks, and I wouldn't advise it... but respecting a woman has nothing to do with her profession; it's about the woman herself.

    People say porn/sex acts objectifies and degrades women. I look at it this way: women are flaunting their bodies while men drool and throw money at them. Hmm... how is this degrading?
     
  10. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    How do men receive respect? Automatically right.
    Should be the same for both, especially in this day and age.
     
  11. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    we're quite confused? i think you're quite confused.
     
  12. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    wow, i'm speechless.... hahaha...
     
  13. dances in pajamas

    dances in pajamas strange little girl

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    I'm with tigerlilly.
     
  14. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    She is not a prostitute, and as far as I know is not a whore either. I don't see anything wrong w/ her choice in jobs. I'm not saying that I would date or marry her, but I would have no problem continuing to be her friend. By the way, for research purposes, whats the link to her site?
     
  15. fexurbis

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    He is.
     
  16. clementinexo

    clementinexo hip *****s sucks.

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    there is nothing slutty about getting nude on a webcam... you should look up the correct definition of "slut" and "prostitute"
     
  17. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    this is from the american heritage dictionary:



    pros·ti·tute (prŏs'tĭ-tūt', -tyūt') pronunciation
    n.

    1. One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
    2. One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

    tr.v., -tut·ed, -tut·ing, -tutes.

    1. To offer (oneself or another) for sexual hire.
    2. To sell (oneself or one's talent, for example) for an unworthy purpose.

    [Latin prōstitūta, from feminine past participle of prōstituere, to prostitute : prō-, in front; see pro–1 + statuere, to cause to stand.]
    prostitutor pros'ti·tu'tor n.


    I think the second definition is open to interpretation, and i'm sure johnschlong has a right to call her what he wants. really, if he thinks so low of her for something so accepted by the rest of us it's probably best that he not be her friend anymore, and just leave her alone... but i think i or somebody else already said this :p
     
  18. topper

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    Do you deny anyone the right to earn a living and survive as they find suitable for themselves? It may not be your cup of tea, but she may love it. Almost everyone deserves respect. Every woman should be respected for themselves, not what they do. I have known stripper, dancers, prostitues,moms, grandmothers to high society women and they all deserve the same respect as any human being.
    The money could be fantastic too. There are many stories of women and couples who have suffered and struggled all of their lives and found success and fortune in the world of pornography. It's life man, deal with it.
     
  19. Cerebus

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    I doubt somehow that many of them "love it". Unless they are all Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman. Still, quite agree that everyone should be respected.
     
  20. married but lonely

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    if youre that worried about her being such a slut you must be interested do yourself a favour find out what it is shes doing if you cant understand right now its just a way of paying her bills i know people who have put themselves through college its alot easier to survive on than student loans if it bothers you that much offer to pay some of her bills in my opinion you are either madly in love or jealous you dont have the balls to do it yourself
     

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