Life, the universe, genitals...

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Valis_77, Aug 13, 2004.

  1. Valis_77

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    Have you ever stopped to think how weird life is?? Yes, I am drunk but still...

    We're these little beings floating around on a sphere with a fiery centre. We have no idea how we got here, or for what purpose (if any). We have beliefs and superstitions and limited "science" but we don't really know shit.

    There's stars and bees and shit. Isn't that weird? And if things as surreal as them can exist how can you be sceptical about anything?

    And then there's the fact that we're all on a conveyer-belt to death. We try to ignore it by shopping a lot or working in crap jobs and saving our money but it's all for nothing because the Earth will be swallowed up by the sun soon enough anyway.

    Take the God thing (and I'm not anti-spiritual...quite the opposite) but if something as powerful as God existed why would he (or she) create a being capable of offending him so much that he'd need something like hell to punish him eternally? See either that doesn't make sense or our little brains can't comprehend it.

    And when you look at it carefully things like reincarnation are equally bizarre. And so is the idea of nothing at all. So what the fuck is real and when is someone going to tell me.

    Believing in anything is just a fucking guess. Something to make life seem more meaningful and less scary. I guess there's nothing wrong with that, but I want to know what this is REALLY about.

    God, I need sex.

    And there's another thing. The penis!!! Isn't that a fucking strange idea??
     
  2. Peanuts

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    Well, I hope to answer one thing. As for when is someone going to tell you what is real? You have to make that up as you go. It's all in how you want to look at it. You know your here for X amount of years. Why not enjoy your life and take from it what you can. Life, freedom, choices. You have tons of choices.

    Life doesn't have to suck.

    I have had a drink too. I hope anything I say doesn't upset you. This is something I have learned in my life and it is working wonderful for me.

    Peanuts
     
  3. backtothelab

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    You make alot of sense. Alot of people put an emphasis on the surreal, when reality itself completely surpasses the sureal.

    PS: I just got a bit of rum, for shits and giggles.[​IMG]
     
  4. Valis_77

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    Hey Peanuts :) No of course you didn't upset me. And you're right.

    I was only half-joking with that post. I always get crazy philosophical when I'm drunk :)

    I just get hit sometimes by how crazy life really is!! Maybe it's best not to think too hard about it. I'll end up in the nut-house :)
     
  5. Peanuts

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    I was only half-joking with that post. I always get crazy philosophical when I'm drunk :)

    I just get hit sometimes by how crazy life really is!! Maybe it's best not to think too hard about it. I'll end up in the nut-house :)[/QUOTE]

    I agree if you think to hard about it. I did end up in the nut-house years ago. That really turned things around for me. :p
     
  6. Peanuts

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    I forgot to add that I analyze a lot too, especially when I am drunk. I feel like I can look at something from all different angles.
     
  7. Valis_77

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    I've never tried rum. What's it like? I've got beer, red wine, vodka and vampire porn :) Now all I need is an inflatable doll and I'm set for the night!!
     
  8. Valis_77

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    Yep, I'm exactly the same. Glad I'm not the only one :)

    Did you really end up in the "nut-house"??

    A few years ago I ended up in a place for dealing with depression and some anxiety issues I used to have. It was a big turning point for me.
     
  9. Peanuts

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    That is basically what I had except I checked myself in. :p

    I have gone to therapy over the years. Currently I am not in therapy and feel I am doing exceptionally well. It took me a few hurtles but I think I have it figured out.

    It's all in how you look at it....
     
  10. Valis_77

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    That's a really cool way of seeing things.

    I was doing pretty well myself, I've just slid back a bit this year. Hopefully I'll pull myself up again soon.

    It's good to hear from someone who's been thru it and is doing well. Thanks for telling me about that. Gives me hope!!
     
  11. ArtLoveMusic

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    Hey man, wikkid thread.
    You need ti chat to Mister Dharmamillo, the profound speakings of him would have you enthrawled in a convosation that lasts throughout the night :D
    You had a wonderful thought there, dont blame it on drunkenness... its an incredibly scary thought, and when my thoughts take me there i get nervous because it takes the idea of life and just rips it to shreads leaving you with no perpouse to be.so unless ur decide your happy with not having a purpous and just being a glitch on the lense of time (which some people cant handle) it can get you really down :)

    Also the whole depression thing etc, i hope things arent too bad for you. One thing i learned was no matter how many people you talk to about your problems and how low you feel, in the end its you who helps yourself. You decide...right as of today i wont be depressed anymore...i will look and the skys and feel wonderment at the eternity of the universe and i wont feel depressed. And its incredibly difficult toget that mind frame because depression is a comfort zone. its comfortable and easy to be depressed.... almost safe because you know how your days will end... but the fact it not all comfort zones are a good place to be... its like being in a womb of self revolved emotions and slowly poking your headout and learning to face the world outside without the comfort of the mother of depression. But once you get it.... you've got it... and its great. trust me :) Ands i send you all the strongest bestest wishes i have that you find a smile today and hold it in your heart.... and pick up that Vampire porn and have a good ol day ;)

    Llama love
    Fleassy xox
     
  12. Peanuts

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    I have to agree with Fleasy about being in a comfort zone when your depressed. Well said Fleasy....

    As painful as it is, it is a mind trap. There is so much negativity out there that feeds into that crap. Learning how to train your brain into thinking positive thoughts is really hard at first but once you learn how to glide into that thinking pattern it could save you. It saved me at least. Try not to surround yourself with negative people. That will make your journey so much harder.

    Depression is sorta like an addiction. Once you get into it sometimes it is hard to get out of it.
     
  13. ArtLoveMusic

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    so very very true. And you also resort to different tacktics to make yourself feel better... you think that ones not as bad as the other but they are all just as bad as each other.

    I went through all things, the typical self harm cutting as a lot of people do, but then i didnt eat for 2 weeks and got quite ill and then i went onto smashing my head into things... and even that gets addictive.
    i also would let people take advantage of me, geting me into worser situations.
    And i did a bit of binge drinking.. to a point. I was 16 and would be out atleast 4 times a week getting drunk (inc college nights) but it wasnt going down the pub getting drunk it was walking to the offy, buying a coulple of bottles of what ever and drinking it onthe walk back to my friends house.
    I also suffered from panick attacks and things very often.
    But since i picked myself up i now drink very rarely, and eat a lot more healthyer (which is good as ive suffered from bad eating all my life) and i dont suffer from panick attacks anymore. I get the occasional Anxiety attack but i dont think thats down to depression more due to me being a bit odd :p

    The point was...*think back*...oh yea when i stopped cutting myself i did it because my oyfriend had started doing it really badly, to passing out points and it scared me.... so i though the other things i did weren't as bad. However i now see its all just punishment of yourself.
    I began to learn if i felt down and i got an urge to do soemthing tomyself id go out, id ring up anyone and just go out. Even now if i feel down i have to get out the house because i cant trust myself to be alone if im in that state. It helps so so so much. I wont say i dont get down because everyone does, and i wont say i never begin to slip back because i do but i know now theres so much more to life than that and as peanuts said, once you've found a way to get yourself out of it, as long as you have that desire to be free of the zone you can do it so much easyer. What used to take me weeks to pick me up now takes me hours. If i feel realy depressed it lasts for an hour or so, i feel drained and uncreative and cry then... i pick myself back up again. I think i need these bouts every now and then though... because its good to refresh yourself, clear your system with a hug and a few tears and then be back to your old self again. Thats where friends are important, my friends, especially Dandelion, hae helped me so much even in this last year where i havnt been that bad. She stoped me slipping back, if i felt down shed help me out of the house. Also Sal (peacePhoenix) if i was alone and getting panicky... he rang me up and talked nonsence to me untill i was laughing and joking and its that for which i am so thankful i found these forums....
    ..I know i can depend on my friends here to help me if im down, and i hope they feel the same back.
     
  14. Peanuts

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    I like you Fleasy. I think we would have a great time together.

    XOXO,
    Laura
     
  15. ArtLoveMusic

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    *grin* thank you very much :)
    Would you like to talk sometime on MSN? if so add me if you have it, Gothic_llama@hotmail.com
    llama love
    Fleassy xox
     
  16. Valis_77

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    Hey Fleassy,


    Thanks for all you wrote. Very true, I agree completely.

    In fact what you wrote is the exact kind of thing I used to say to people with depression.

    It is a comfort-zone. And it is all how we look at life. I guess it's just easy to forget when it creeps up on you. Maybe I should wrote a note and pin it to my wall to remind me!!!

    I was doing really well for awhile, then in the last few months I lost my job, broke up with my last girlfriend, my cat died...lol...I guess I just let it all get to me.

    Anyway, thanks again for what you said. It was a good reminder for me!!

    Dom
     
  17. ArtLoveMusic

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    *hugs* no problem dear. Just remember even the cloudiest skies let through a ray of hope :)
     
  18. John221

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    Ah, but the penis my dear fellow, the penis!
     
  19. showmet

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    What an excellent post.:) I like the way you are so aware of and open to possibilities but sceptical of them all rather than choosing one that "must be right". I admire your open-mindedness.
     
  20. Valis_77

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    Thanks dude :D

    I guess it's a good thing but it's a pain in the ass too. Even something simple like going to get some milk from the local shop becomes a big philosophical issue in my mind :)
     
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