Why are the women not being mentioned?

This is fucking digusting.



"Los Angeles, Alta California - May 2, 2004 - (ACN) The release, by CBS News, of the photographs showing the heinous sexual abuse and torture of Iraqi POW's at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison has opened a Pandora's box for the Bush regime. Apparently, the suspended US commander of the prison where the worst abuses took place, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POWs and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.

General Janis Karpinski said to the Washington Post that Military Intelligence, rather than the Military Police, dictated the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. "The prison, and that particular cellblock where the events took place, were under the control of the Military Intelligence command," Brigadier General Karpinski said to the Washington Post Saturday night in a telephone interview from her home in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Brigadier General Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, described a high-pressure Military Intelligence and CIA command that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.

Today, new photographs were sent to La Voz de Aztlan from confidential sources depicting the shocking rapes of two Iraqi women by what are purported to be US Military Intelligence personnel and private US mercenaries in military fatigues. It is now known that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq. The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Mexican-American soldier told La Voz de Aztlan, "Maybe the officers didn't know what was going on, but everybody else did. I have seen literally hundreds of these types of pictures." Many of the pictures were destroyed last September when the luggage of soldiers was searched as they left Iraq, he said

An investigation, led by Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba, identified two military intelligence officers and two civilian contractors for the Army as key figures in the abuse cases at the Abu Ghraib prison. In an internal report on his findings, Major General Taguba said he suspected that the four were "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib and strongly recommended disciplinary action." The Taguba report states that "military intelligence interrogators and other U.S. Government Agency interrogators actively requested that Military Police guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses." The report noted that one civilian interrogator, a contractor from a company called CACI International and attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, "clearly knew his instructions" to the Military Police equated to physical and sexual abuse. It is not known whether these instructions included, or led to, the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well."

http://qc.indymedia.org/news/2004/08/1303.php

I will post a related article with pictures very shortly.

 

Update 26 May 2004​

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Female Lawyers Prove Iraqi Women Pack Raped by Americans​

"...happening all across Iraq..."​

"Much has been made of the sexual humiliation of the men incarcerated by the Crusaders in Abu Ghraib Prison. However the abuse of the female prisoners at Abu Ghraib, and other prisons in Iraq, have gone nearly unnoticed. Although it took photographs to wake the world’s attention to the shenanigans, within the cells, it was actually a letter scribed by a woman prisoner that first exposed what was going on in the infamous prison. The contents of a note that was smuggled out of the prison were so shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers who had been trying to gain access to the jail found them hard to believe. It claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees. Several of the women were now pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, it said.

Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing women detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic abuse and torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in detention without charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, but was, as she put it, “happening all across Iraq”. In November 2003, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military base at al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. “She was the only woman who would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been raped,” Swadi says. “Several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried to fight them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the stitches. She told us, ‘We have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell anyone about this.’” During Swadi’s visit to Abu Ghraib in March, one of the prisoners told her that she had been forced to undress in front of US soldiers. “The Iraqi translator turned his head in embarrassment,” she said.
The Taguba inquiry has corroborated the contents of the letter smuggled out of Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor". The enquiry found the letter to be entirely in line with the activities going on within the prison. While most of the focus since the scandal broke three weeks ago has been on the abuse of men, and on their sexual humiliation in front of US women soldiers, there is now incontrovertible proof that women detainees have also been abused. Among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US guards inside Abu Ghraib there are, according to Taguba's report, images of a US military policeman “having sex” with an Iraqi woman. Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed naked female detainees. Bush refused to release other photographs of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although Congress were shown them) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US soldiers in Iraq. However in reality this is merely to prevent further domestic embarrassment.
Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition detention centre after being arrested last July. UK Labour MP Ann Clwyd, who investigated the case and found it to be true, said, “She was held for about six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told she was a donkey.”
Several women are housed in solitary confinement, within cells 2.5m long by 1.5m wide. There remain extremely troubling questions as to why these women came to be classified as “security detainees” - a term invented by the Crusaders to justify the indefinite detention of prisoners without charge or legal access, as part of the war on terror. According to Swadi, who managed to visit Abu Ghraib in late March, the allegations against the women are "absurd". "One of them is supposed to be the mistress of the former director of the Mukhabarat. In fact, she's a widow who used to own a small shop. She also worked as a taxi driver, ferrying children to and from kindergarten. If she really had a relationship with the director of the Mukhabarat, she would scarcely be running a kiosk. These are baseless charges," she adds angrily. "She is the only person who can provide for her children."
The women appear to have been arrested - not because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they are married to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have previously acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing male relatives to provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and fail to find a male suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or daughter instead.
The horrific abuses that are taking place in the prisons of Iraq have come to symbolise the horrific nature of the Iraqi crusade in general. The brutality of the six military personal, that happened to get caught out, is the logical continuum of the occupation. Bush may claim that these abuses have only been committed by six sick individuals and their behaviour “does not represent the America that I know,” as he proclaimed on Arabic television. All the evidence now points to the facts that Donald Rumsfeld, authorised physical coercion and sexual humiliation in Iraqi prisons. America’s political establishment actively encouraged the abuse. Donald Rumsfeld was hand picked by Bush, who was chosen by a minority, and a Court, to be the president of the USA. Therefore the behaviour of the six is wholly representative of the American way."




The above was taken from http://joevialls.altermedia.info/myahudi/rape.html

I noticed on my first post that the link I provided has a link to the original article, which isn't operating anymore.

Why the hell isn't this being covered in the news? I'm starting to feel sick.

 

It's not getting in the news because sexually humiliating what most people still think are terrorists is considered much less awful than raping innocent women. Seeing as they're women, they COULDN'T be terrorists, because they're WOMEN.

Anyway, it's some awful stuff going on over there. It's a modern day concentration camp. Places like this will soon be in the united states as well. Read this

 

Anyone know if these pictures are real or more of the ones from a pornographic movie mistakenly reported as real in the past?


By the way, I don't doubt women are being gang-raped by American soldiers. Rape is a very common method of torture and oppression during war (and otherwise).

 

I believe several people already posted links that said that those pictures are screen shots from a porn film.

Snopes doesnt address it because no one asked them about it yet. So their site has nothing to prove or disprove the pictures.

 

I thought that might be the case. There actually are reportedly some real pictures, but they have not been released to the public...

 

You know, i highly doubt US troops are trading em like baseball cards. We may be demented as a society, but we aren't fucking depraved.

 

Men have been raping women in wartime since war. Duh. Why does this surprise anyone. And why would it be so hard to believe that American soldiers are doing it. Don't be stupid people. Of course this is happening. Now I don't know about these pictures, but I don't doubt for one minute that it is happening. This is why I can't stand war.

 

No, those pictures posted above are not real, and yes, they were taken from a porno movie and passed off as real (even though it's pretty easy to tell just by looking at the pictures that they're not real).

As far as US soldiers raping Iraqi women, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was true.

BTW, that article is 3 MONTHS old.

 

The story may not be reported because, as much as i hate to admit it, American society still does look at woman as sexual objects, we have come further as a society with womans rights (The right to vote, etc.) but when it all comes down to it, Woman are still sexual objects to our society, just as black people are 90% of the time portrayed as gangsters, thugs, and drug dealers. It is just the way our society thinks, and woman will probably not be reguarded as good as men in our lifetime (although i hope, maybe, it will happen in our lifetime). Woman are still not equal in the workplace, and just the other week my mom says she votes because she has the right to, but she doesnt vote because she cares about who the president is, she says she just votes for a random person and doesn't care who it is, and somewhere around 50% of the country doesn't vote, and from what I have seen on the news, a large majority of that 50% is woman. It is a sad society we live in, and don't you think we should be fixing up the sexism and racism in OUR country before we go over to Iraq and try to make that a democracy, America has been in existince for over 300 years and we still havn't gotten deomcracy right, how can we give a country a democracy in 5 years? 10 years? Impossible...

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

the women being abused may aslo not be getting enough media because they want to stay hidden, anonymous. their society over there is still pretty heavy on the women. hell, just 30 years ago my own mother was blamed and ostrasized for her own rape. she still sometimes feels she woulda been better off not saying anything. and that's here. sexual abuse is ugly on SO MANY levels.

 

Very True...

Peace and Love,
Dan