Threatening to kill a fellow soldier if he told the truth about shooting 3 Iraqis

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U.S. soldiers charged with murder in Iraq​

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Stop Supporting BUSH​

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Sadly enough, this is not surprising. This is what happen when you put guns in the hands of kids. People in the army are so brainwashed that all arabic people are terrorists that this is what happens.

By the way, do you know what happened in Canada? Here's what I posted on Myspace: (some of the underlines are links)

 

Morning Myst​

No, I didn't know about that​

Thank you dear sister, May Allah bless you for being against what is happeneing, I don't know HOW people can hate each other like this! SOlUTIONS ARE THERE IF THEY REALY WANT PEACE ​

Some Good news from Canada​

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Thank you Canada, May Allah bless Canada and the Canadian people, Amen​

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I tell you, it's a scary time to bee a young adult. My lover is in the military, and has absolutely no interest in what is going on outside of our little circle in Missouri. He claims that all he knows about Shrubbie is that He got a raise in pay out of him, and he firmly believes that since he's in the Air Force, if he does get sent overseas (May whatever god you prefer forbid it.) he'll be in a little hotel room safe and sound. I love him, but I think he's a little naive.

 

i saw one story on the news that was real bad.

a caravan of hummers were going threw a town and a roadside bomb blew up the first hummer. the soldiers in the second vehicle knew the soldiers that were ahead of them that just blew up. the soldiers got out of the second hummer and started shooting at this building which was holding like a family of nine. they killed most of them i think except the dad and a daughter. after that they went to more houses and just started killing innocent kids and in one case a baby. then they stopped a car which was full of four people who went to a college nearby and they executed them.

and people say this type of stuff doesnt happen with america.

 

It didnt happen in America, it happened in Iraq.

What more can you expect of tax-paid, indoctrinated psychopaths illegally and brutally occupying a weaker nation? Very few troops have even read or understand the Consitutional principles they actually swear to uphold. They serve callous, sub-human corporate interests (which have backed the slaughter of hundreds of millions if not billions around the globe throughout the entire past century), not the protection of US soil nor its citizens.

IF they would turn their guns on their commanders en masse and roll on back home to put an end to this cowardly and corrupt administration and its ideologically collusionist Pentagon Chiefs of Staff, maybe both our nation and the poor Iraqis/Afghanis might achieve self determination once again.

Not much chance of that I'm afraid.

 

Hi tculi​

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You are talking about Haditha, Here is a link;(includes videos, photos and reposts)​

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Hi LickHERish​

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Here is an update:​

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US troops 'smiled before killing' ​

Last Updated: Wednesday, 2 August 2006, 18:47 GMT 19:47 UK ​

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I agree,i recall as a 17 year old swearing to up hold the Constitution in my oath of enlistment.I had no idea at the time what was in that document that i was swearing an oath to. Had i discovered that,i would have been required to shoot my superiors.

 

FatFreddyFreekowtski​

Ok, first of all this thread isn't about him but about Sergeant Raymond Girouard, Private First Class Corey Clagett and Specialists William Hunsaker and Juston Graber ​

Secondly: about his ''Morals'' that explains a lot, huh! I doubt that Al-Qaeda's leaders and memebers are Muslims, who knows some ppl believe that Al_Qaeda is ''Made in USA'' maybe they are right, who knows for sure, and there is a theory says: Osama is an agent, He taught young, illiterate, uninformed and ignorant Muslims about Jihad wrongly, out of context, those Muslims believed him, the Suadi Arabia in its campaign against terrorists found out that those terrorists have misunderstandings and misconceptions, you know they hold number of them and sent some Sheikhs to them to clarify this matter to them as I read in the news, many of them changed their mind after that)​

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Allah knows best​

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Cat Stevens​

 

Update Source​

(AP) Sept. 2, 2006​

*Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. concluded that the slayings were premeditated and warranted the death sentence based on evidence he heard at an August hearing.​

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*The soldiers are accused of killing three Iraqi men taken from a house May 9 on a marshy island outside Samarra, about 60 miles north of Baghdad.​

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*Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard, Spc. William B. Hunsaker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett and Spc. Juston R. Graber have claimed they were ordered to "kill all military age males" during the raid on the island. ​

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*Hunsaker told investigators that he and Clagett were attacked by the three men, who were being handcuffed, and shot them in self-defense. Clagett said he was hit in the face, and Hunsaker claimed he was stabbed during the attack.Prosecutors argue the soldiers conspired to kill the men and then altered the scene to fit their story. They contend Girouard stabbed Hunsaker as part of the killing plot.​

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*Girouard, the most senior soldier charged, faces several additional charges, including sexual harassment and carrying a personal weapon on duty.​

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Cat Stevens​

 

hi. not entirely on-topic, but i felt i could jump in and post my thoughts on the side-issue of the morals involved.

tho i admit to not being hip to the entire documents' (us constitution) contemporary(1975) content & meaning when i enlisted, i knew in my heart that what i did vow to protect were the founding principles the original document addressed. i think most people would agree they're good things. however, it didn't take me long to figure out the economic and political leaders of the time weren't using much discretion or diplomacy in how they used my offer to help. since my intentions were sincere, i can remain proud of my contribution.

just like a young muslim can be led astray, so can a young u.s. citizen. it can happen to any young person who gets caught up in the moment. and just like a young muslims' behaviors can reflect badly on islam in general, so can an individual soldiers' moral-misconduct affect an attitude towards an entire country.

anyone, anywhere, anyside, anycolor, anycreed, anyreason, we will ultimately be held accountable for all our actions. i'm guessing that items like "predjudicial behavior" & "intolerance" will be on the final-checklist. i'm thinking there won't be any questions at all about race or religion or political-party or sexual preference or whatever, nope...we're gonna be standing there fresh outta excuses, and on our own.

imo, individuals should learn we all face a common enemy these days. hint: think "multi-national corporate misconduct."

 

It can happen anywhere under any government Aguidog. I don't doubt that low level gis were threatened. It's not just an oath to the constitution that they agree to but an agreement to follow orders. That's where the flaw lies. And during basic training or boot camp recruits are indocrinated into a mindset, of what's for the better good for their fellow troops. The individual has no place in the military.

The Holocaust happened because soliders followed orders, and the recent conflict with Israel and Lebanon for the same reasons.

 

augidog​

US soldiers should know and ask what will they do and for what in the first place, but to go and work like a slave without questioning or not even knowing why are they doing so or for what this is stupid and I have no respect for such so-called soldiers.​

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As for this story there was no reason for doing so except evilness, if they don't have morals don't go there, huh! actually they don't have, the war wasn't justfied nor there was a reson for waging it yet they joined the war.huh! let's not forget who was their so-called commander in Chief or president! who ordered them to do so, Bush, what! obeying Bush, indeed they have no morals, you know who Bush is. if my boss is an evil and I'm his secretary both of us are evils. with out those so-called soldiers Bush cannot wage any evil war. Accordingly US soldiers are worse than Bush,he just can prate but his tools are the so-called soldiers.​

US soldiers should learn from this guy.​

The first rational commissioned US army officer *Hats Off*​

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And Cat still reads news and post them.... mysty Girl- that what happens at war, not when you give weapons to someone.....
WAR has no rules, remember that, that is why it is so feared. sadly but no matter who fights , there will be always some innocent killings.

 

BeaverKoffi​

Not sure what are ya commenting on, but if it is on the incident the story that I posted it then re-read it , it wasn't during the war!​

Yeah for immoral fighters there is no, sush as these​

IDF general: Troops lacking food can steal from Lebanese stores ​

Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents ​

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Did they, oh dear ! Well soldiers are not really known for their tenderness and care. I suspect most of them, while being in a situation where they are being shot at are just slightly nervous and perhaps were interested in preserving their own safety. That is after all the duty of a soldier. All that is apart from which if you just saw your best friend die would you be likely to get outside the hummer and start having a party complete with cakes and savoury snacks and cocktails with the local residents?
I think you would be likely to say, shit I could die any second now unless we get the bastards that are shooting at us. Then I think you would be likely to shoot at whatever you thought was a target. Executions (if you are telling the truth) were probably out of anger and fear. Also I wonder if you could link to a site that shows the exact vidclip you saw?

It might be politically correct, to say these soldiers are in the wrong, to do what they did, but its a battlezone and since when did you ever feel under that much pressure to kill the opposition before they kill you?

 

Both sides are wrong. God and Allah would never sanction such stupidity. One side always wants to be in the right. Death can never lead to a valid solution.

 

For those that are really interested this is what's in the recruitment papers and reup documents:

http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/19_03/military_enlistment.pdf#search=%22%20us%20recruitment%20oath%22

Read it carefully. Make sure to scroll to page 3 item 15.