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Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by Brand New Soul, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. Brand New Soul

    Brand New Soul Senior Member

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    My dog is having really bad sezurs. When we leave we put her in her cage...because she has a tendancy to crap all over the house if we don;t. And every time we let her out of the cage when we get back, she gets so excited that she just stops and the hair goes up on her back, falls down and start shaking and breathing heavy. It also happens when usually if someone from my family spent the night away from home and you walk in the door she goes nuts cause shes happy to see you. And she then starts having a sezur.

    I don;t know what to do about it...last vet I went to ...which was a while ago said it was because she was over weight. But shes lost weight recently and their getting worse.

    I usually catch her before she falls... and then hold her and call her name until she comes out of it.

    Does anyone what I should do? I have been bugging my mom to take her to the vet and ...doesn't seem likly that will go anytime soon.
     
  2. Cosmic Butterfly

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    Some animals are born with problems. Your dog could be handicapped.
     
  3. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    she needs to go to a vet. take her to another vet as it is always good to get a second opinion on such serious health issues. If she has a seizure disorder there is medication that can help make them less frequent. Put her on a diet of PREMIUM dog food if she isn't on that already. That may not affect her seizures but good nutrition is KEY to the health and well being of any animal. Most importantly, she cannot be helped unless taken to a vet......very important. Do you drive? Can you take her or ask a friend or relative to drive her if your mother won't? Why won't your mom take her?
     
  4. Wond'ringAloud

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    She really should be seen by a vet, but at the very least phone him and get advice. If money is an issue, perhaps something can be worked out regarding payment. In the UK vets take payment by instalments. Sounds as though she has epilepsy, and it can be controlled. Is she a nervous dog and doesn't like being left alone, or just very excitable? Please try and get her to a vet!
     
  5. Brand New Soul

    Brand New Soul Senior Member

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    Thanks..I will bugg my mom till we get her to the vet. Im not to sure why my mom won;t take her, but I asume money trouble.
     
  6. BadBlackDog

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    I can't believe this dog hasn't been put on pheno or other anti seizure medications. Sorry to say your vet doesn't sound very good. When a dog begins to have seziures the first thing which should be done is blood tests to rule out diseases which may be causing it. Being overweight does a lot of bad things to dogs but it doesn't cause seizures. Diabetes which can be brought on by weight problems can cause seizures and would require a different approach than epilepsy.

    Next if the dog has seizures often, several in a row or grand mals (which it sounds like your dog has) and no disease is found the dog is treated for epilepsy and put on an anti seizure medication. Some breeds and mixes of those breeds are more prone to epilepsy than others but it can happen in any dog. Dogs who seizure that are left unmedicated can go into a coma and/or suffer brain and organ damage due to repeated seizures. Seizures tend to get worse as time goes on. If you can't afford the medications and vet care the kindest thing may be to put the dog to sleep :(

    http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/Resources.html
     
  7. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    if you can't afford the meds and vet care then BEFORE considering "putting her to sleep" you should contact every rescue possible and see if one is willing to foster and re-home her. That is if her condition allows her to have a good quality of life while on meds......only a vet can determine that.
     
  8. BadBlackDog

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    Rescues and animal shelters generally ahve more dogs than they know what to do with. This dog's problem around here would most likely mean she'd be labeled "unadoptable". If this dog is a purebred however there would be more of a chance of getting her into a breed rescue who tend to be more willing to work with special needs dogs.

    Actually vets can not determine if a dog will have a good quality o life on meds or not. The only way to know is for the dog to be put on meds (and have them adjusted as needed). My epileptic dog seizured even on pheno and they were always cluster seizures. No one could determine that would be the case though when we first put him on meds.
     
  9. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    whether or not rescues are full matters not. the point is to atleast TRY to place her with a rescue BEFORE sending her to die just because she was born with a health issue. I know many rescues who are dealing with dogs with health problems who's "owners" turned them in because they could not afford the vet bills. I did not tell her to check shelters as most kill shelters would put her to sleep anyway. And these days many places still use gas chambers. Most of these dogs in rescue have been sucessfully adopted and some are still in foster care.......enjoying the good life. Obviously determining her quality of life is going to take time.....obviously. Still a vet needs to be brought into the picture to monitor her and treat her right away.

    It kills me how so many people take on a dog and then when that dog comes up with a health problem the people can't afford it (more often than not they don't even try to) and toss the dog like trash. It happens all the time. Dogs are alot more than just food and toys.
     
  10. Poem~Girl

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    there is medication for seizures for dogs now when i had a dog many years back i used to have to watch my dog seize and rub his tummy . So i'd tell your mom to check into it. TC

    PG
     
  11. drumminmama

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    the defication is a result of siezures. I have known several seizure disorder dogs (and oddly, I have them too) and they were all helped, not cured, but helped, with meds.
    Some rescues are VERY good with special needs dogs.
     
  12. Brand New Soul

    Brand New Soul Senior Member

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    Hmm Im not to sure my mom is going to fork up the money to go to the vet. SHe keeps saying theres a miss firing in the brain (she got that from the old vet, who wasn't the brightest crown in the box). She won't listen to what I have to say...because wiether or not she won't pay. I feel really bad for my dog because its not fair to her... I wish there was more I could do for her. But I can't I have zippo money my self...Thanks for the info though I appericate it.
     
  13. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yeah, it's fucking EPILEPSY.
    it's a chemical misfire in the brain and it can be helped and to not do so is fucking abuse.
    If YOU had seizures, would your mom take you to the doc?
    We're talking pills, not surgery.
    Now, do what's right for the dog.
    Call the closest vet school and tell them you need help for this animal and your mom is not willing to help and do they know of any low-cost clinics?
    Call the former vet and ask for meds for the dog.
    if you cannot get help for the animal, surrender it to a no-kill that can find a new home willing to take care of it.
     
  14. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    I second what drummin mama just said. Don't accept that YOU cannot do anything. We can all make a difference. You must do something. This dog is suffering. I'd like to have a few words with your mom.....any chance she'll come on the forums?;)
     
  15. Brand New Soul

    Brand New Soul Senior Member

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    haha no she doesn;t even know how to turn on the computer. But just a few mins ago I mentioned my dog infront of my Dad and he said pretty much the same thing everyone is thinking "shes aprat of the family, and if one of our kids was having sezurs would you take them to the doctor?" at that point my mom says "your making me look like the bad guy" and stormed off up stairs.

    I do love my mom, I just wish she wasn't so cheap when it came to our animals. Shes out of a job and has been *cough* looking for one for a while now, she can't find one...never the less she doesn't seem like she wants one...so thats the big reason, she doesn;t have a job, in turn she cant aford meds. Im sure if i left it up to my dad it would be put off... although he does care... but it wouldn't happen till a 02048023840 years from now. So my plan is to ask my dad to take her to the vet...Hopefully it will get done fatser than what I imagen.
     
  16. Cosmic Butterfly

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    Hmmmm. I thought you were against meds from a previous discussion we had....Do you realize those meds were tested on animals?
     
  17. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    tested on an animal versus direct betterment of an animal life.
    Tests are complete. this animal is suffering NOW (seizures are NOT fun).
    Cosmic, that's a red herring here, anyway.
     
  18. Cosmic Butterfly

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    Sorry, I just remember a thread that went on and on, and some things she said about medications and animals. Basically letting them deal with it naturally blah blah.

    Anyway, I do think the dog needs HELP because it is suffering.
     
  19. Elle

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    really they were?:rolleyes:

    I am against animal testing but if there are already meds out there that were formed with info from animal testing...not using those meds would not only be a waste but it wouldn't benefit any animals anyway. what's done is done and no changing the past. as DM said "tests are complete". Thought that was kinda obvious. guess not for some.
     
  20. Cosmic Butterfly

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    Tests are never complete, and there will always be more.
     
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