Are Rich People Bad People?

Discussion in 'Old Hippies' started by robspace2, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    1
    I used to be down on rich people-but I was wrong as money itself is not a problem-The problem with money is how it is gotten-If a man or women was broke for many years and was a street hippie in the 60s; went to work and through that work became wealthy; to me; that is fantastic-that is setting a goal and achieving it-Now; as long as the person did not use other people or swindle anybody to get there; no problem-I would love to see all the people from my past; become rich-great-I believe it is how a person gets and handles wealth that is important--money should never come before family or love for others-those that have struggled would most often remember the hard times and not become a greedy money monger-Is a hippy who has gained wealth a sell out-not at all-There is no reason to stay broke if you don't have to-When I hear people calling rich hippies sellouts; I laugh-Show me anyone that would say no to money-but; the difference is in the way it is handeled-Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he just signed papers to give away his fortune upon his death-Bill Gates has the right attitude-and I applaud him for his generosity-
     
  2. augidog

    augidog grateful guest

    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    0
    a-greed ;)

    i've seen people handle "wealth" in many ways. in west palm beach, "inheritance" should have a check-box in the category "occupation."

    seems to me that a person's goodness or badness isn't about the moolah, but a few bucks sure will bring out the best or worst, eh?

    i had the coolest "business ethics" prof in college, he says "not that it matters to the recipient, but why is a company/person being generous?"

    btw-i'm not knocking generosity, and this new trend of the wealthy to want to "give it up" is encouraging, but have a closer look at where that $ is going. it's not being spread around, but being earmarked (with the best of intentions, i'm sure) for very narrowly-minded "programs" that actively exclude the demographic group the giver belongs/belonged to. but, hey, they are getting closer to the real-deal, so i'll 'preciate it for what it is.
     
  3. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    1
    money is not the root of all evil, the love of money is.
     
  4. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    1
    -It may be that this bad name the rich got; was from the old days of king and queens-the haves and the rest of us-lol-I really hope we as a people have learned that money don't buy happiness-I have seen it alot-in my own family and others-the need to keep up on the toys is a deadly game-It taxes the heart and BP-It's very stressful to constantly want stuff-starts at home-we get a toy-we dig it for an hour then want another one-A smart parent will not give another one for awhile-but too many cave in in the name of love and give a kid whatever they want to shut em up-this is easier at first but presents big problems later on-To constantly want newer. bigger better stuff-where does it end?-Beyond the basics; all else is fluff-lol
     
  5. Dimensionality

    Dimensionality Member

    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yep, ... 1 Timothy 6:10
     
  6. jailmate

    jailmate Plantenist

    Messages:
    791
    Likes Received:
    0
    duh, yeh, auh or no, maybee itz like, duh - evil luv uv no money -
     
  7. Soberbeah

    Soberbeah Member

    Messages:
    437
    Likes Received:
    1
    half and half I'd say
     
  8. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

    Messages:
    1,357
    Likes Received:
    4
    I agree it's the karma behind wealth that's important, not wealth itself. Philanthropy is great, provided the motive behind it is generosity, not self righteousness. With wealth comes responsibility, since wealth brings power, but you also have more to lose, and you question the motives of others who appear to be friendly. If you can lead a simple life and be happy with what you've got while being generous, you're set--the key is not to appear wealthy. I know a lot of rich people who are like that: successful, yet down to earth, generous, and content with very little. Unfortunately, I also know a lot more rich people who are on the "treadmill" (more=better)...
     
  9. campfirejam

    campfirejam Something-Something

    Messages:
    3,091
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think that if they worked hard for it, they deserve to have what they want. Some people desire the finer things in life, while others like to live it as real as possible. I like nice rich people but I don't like snobby rich people.
     
  10. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2
    The richest person I ever knew was also the most kind and giving... I would not have what I do today without her generosity. Me and alot of other folks. She died a couple years ago. She also left $250,000 to Doctors Without Borders, $50,000 to NORMAL, $100,000 to public radio........ The list goes on and on. Three pages worth. God love her.

    On the other hand, I've known some folks who were OK as long as they were broke, but soon as $ hit their grubby little hands they turned into ASSHOLES....
     
  11. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    5,303
    Likes Received:
    756
    I'm not jealous / envious of other peoples money. Its bad karma.:)

    Be happy in your own life.

    Peace
     
  12. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

    Messages:
    1,357
    Likes Received:
    4
    Definitely a major factor is how they became rich, and their personal background. If they're spiritually grounded, morally solid, and they worked hard for their wealth, yeah, more power to them, but if they got there by screwing people, or if they came into it by luck and became self-centered elitist snobs, they'll suffer the life of misery that bad karma affords them. I read something a while back about a case study of folks that won the lotto, and most of them ended up being way worse off than they were before they got the loot--don't sign me up for that!
     
  13. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2
    I believe I could deal with luck and the lottery! I would get myself a better chevette...
     
  14. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,858
    Likes Received:
    0
    'Are Rich People Bad People? '
    ..oh yeh they be bad........I'm low on cash and I'm even much more wicked...........Jesus Christ had no money at all and when he healed for no money at all n did all that....someone said like you be good...he then said why u call me good, I'm wicked.......so my love JC is mo wicked than even me.......yeh I B BAD :)
     
  15. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,858
    Likes Received:
    0
    "I'm so wicked I have to think of nice things to say on purpose or people like me to much" - HS
     
  16. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    1
    Earthmother-I don't suppose my name made it on that ladies list did it?-I promise I won;t be an asshole if I get a windfall; which would be anything over a hundred or so these days-hahah-Seriously' I have become more discouraged over the promise of happiness that money portrays-We see it everywhere; in car ads and bigger house commercials in telemarketing etc. I grew up in a new home with a nice income-My parents worked hard as did my only brother-All to achieve a ?better way of life"-ie. more toys-My mother and my brother were dead at 50 and 53 from drinking-It taught me that happiness was not in having nice things but having a good loving relationship with God and those around you-When we find that money was not the key to happiness we are thrown into depression-and self detruction is not far off-we have to teach kids young about what is real and what is love-
     
  17. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2
    Money is an addiction just like bad drugs...
     
  18. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,392
    Likes Received:
    5
    There's a place
    I can get to
    Where I'm safe
    >From the city blues
    And its green
    And its quiet
    Only trouble was
    I had to buy it
    And I'll do anything I got to do >
    Cut my hair and shine my shoes > chorus
    And keep on singin' the blues >
    If I can stay here in Johnny's garden >
    As the swift bird
    Flies over the grasses
    Dipping now and then
    To take his breakfast
    Thus I come and go
    And I travel
    And I can watch that bird
    And unravel
    chorus --
    With his love
    And his carin'
    He puts his life
    Into beauty sharin'
    And his children
    Are his flowers
    There to give us peace
    In quiet hours
     
  19. yarrow_sun

    yarrow_sun Member

    Messages:
    398
    Likes Received:
    1
    It's the striving and yearning for more STUFF that's bad. The "he who dies with the most toys wins" mentality perpetuates unhappiness.

    Joy can be found in rejecting materialism and not forming attachment to things.

    It seems like wealthy people are generally into more and more costly stuff.
     
  20. Rebel_1

    Rebel_1 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Messages:
    1,789
    Likes Received:
    1
    Not all rich people are bad or greedy but one thing we must remember is that in all truthfulness it's not what you have in meterial possesions that make you a better person, it's really all in a person's attitude.

    A person who has a loving attitude twards his God, family, friends, and a clean earth is truthfully a successful person, no money is needed to be sucessful in my book.

    Another way I look at it is this. If you have an over abundant amount of money the more worldly possesions you buy, the more you are suporting these large corporations that are destroying our earth. Too make those products you buy, factories use more of our trees, more toxic chemicals and other things of the sort that just add to the major problem we are already facing out there, distruction of our planet.

    In the end though none of us are truthfully perfect, I know Im not! I smoke my pipe tobacco, I buy movie's, I buy a certain amount of video games. I have many areas where even I need improvement.

    If you are a wealthier person and you can handle the money responsibly and arent greedy with those who are truely in need, having a careing attitude, and try your best to keep our earth clean. then I say you are doing alright. :sunglasse
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice