why the government hates drug users

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by gointocalifornia, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. gointocalifornia

    gointocalifornia Member

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    Sorry I need to get this off my mind...

    The only reason the government is so against humanity using drugs is because they are afraid of thinkers...people with ideas other than society's norms....people who might do something about the way the social status is shaped. The people on top want to stay on top (for example..the rich get richer while the poor get poorer).

    Drugs used in moderation aren't hurting anybody, with the possible exception of the user if he/she over abuses...

    Why do we have tv? So society can make us subconsciously conform at an early age so we don't even know that we are under the government's "spell". I know and see it in myself.

    This is just a tid bit of my thoughts...sorry if i offended anyone!

    peace
     
  2. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Dont appologize for your beliefs. EVER. Thats something I've come to relize later, you wont be taken as seriously if you appologize for your belief. First of all the goverment hates drug users because its what they've been conditioned to do. It began with racist illegalizations and then its just been accepted as what is right.
     
  3. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    The government hates anything that it cannot regulate / i.e. tax. Its just another issue of the power and control trip that they are on, which they disguise behind words like freedom, liberty, democracy.
     
  4. gointocalifornia

    gointocalifornia Member

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    ;) its so good to hear this from other people

    you have made my day
     
  5. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    Actually, it's the alcohol industry that hates drugs. They see cannabis as competition so they used their huge financial clout to buy some politicians and outlaw it.
     
  6. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Heluva theory man o_o
     
  7. gointocalifornia

    gointocalifornia Member

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    yea man thats quite an interesting view...i like it :)
     
  8. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Throw cigarette companys in there too
     
  9. loverofthewoods

    loverofthewoods Member

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    actually that is probably true...i know medical marijuana has a hard time becoming legal because phamacudical companies pay off gov. officials...most perscription drugs that med marijuana would do away with are more damaging than pot as well
     
  10. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yeah, i've got not problem with ANYTHING being used in moderation. but if it ends up behind the wheel, be prepared for my bitch as to pull you out of the vehicle and pummel you when you get in a wreck. why do people have to be such fucking dumbfucks? go and ruinit for everyone else. and, btw, have you ever tried to have a deep conversation with someone totally baked? that's not thinking. nor is most of the stuff people do when they're on other shit. i do it, too, but i don't try to make it into some profound experience. sometimes you just gotta shut your head down.
     
  11. TheMagicalMushy

    TheMagicalMushy Senior Member

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    I think the whole drug conspiracy thing has been taken too far and too extreme. I think in the beginning it was originally outlawed because the conservative government didnt like the 60's generation and what it stood for. Anymore I honestly dont believe it has anything to do with taxing, I think its simply somthing a drug user came up with to try to change peoples opinions. Flame me all you want I dont care. Im sure it has some what of an impact on it but not the huge thing people make it out to be. I think the government is somewhat mis informed also about drugs. I think that they have grown up to believe what the gov wants them to see and continue on with it. If that makes any sense. I dont think its some huge conspiracy like people make it out to be. Its simple when you think about it. Right now the medical marijuana is starting to come through which is a good start to legalization in the US.

    See, most people in amsterdam buy from coffee shops right? They normally dont grow their own. So why do you think if suddenly it became legal here people would all grow making it intaxable? Most people would just buy and smoke in coffee shops, much more simple. Some people would grow sure, most people I dont think would. It would also boost the tourism amazingly in the US. If most people did grow, the tourists would still be visiting the coffee shops.
     
  12. TenCentArcade

    TenCentArcade Banned

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    Actually, drugs are illegal not because the government is afraid of anything, but because they would lose money and jobs if they were legalized.
     
  13. TheMagicalMushy

    TheMagicalMushy Senior Member

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    How would they lose money? They would save and make more money than lose money. Isnt like 14 billion spent on the drug war every year? How would they lose jobs?
     
  14. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    Pot wasn't outlawed in the 60s. Although certain state and local government outlawed it earlier, pot was nationally outlawed in 1937 when the Marijuana Tax Act was passed.

    In reality it seems that the initial state laws which started popping up around 1914 were enacted as a way to oppress Mexican immigrants in southern states that passed the laws, and as a moral law in the northern states that also were largely responsible for the prohibition of alcohol. Throughout prohibition marijuana gained popularity, and in lieu of alcohol many white americans took up smoking the herb. By the time prohibition ended marijuana was quite popular, many people who had never drank alcohol were perfectly happy with marijuana as a euphoric, in their aggressive moves to take back the industry, the alcohol companies lobbied the government to outlaw their main competition, which was already looked down upon by the ruling class due to racial prejudice, moral bullshit, and some bald-faced-lie propaganda like the film "Reefer Madness", funded by churches and alcohol companies. (hell of an alliance, god and booze) Before long they had the easily manipulated masses thinking that marijuana would turn your kids into sex-crazed murderers, and the politicians were all too happy to accept bribes to pass this unconstitutional legislation through. After all, the foolish masses were scared of marijuana due to the propaganda, and frightened sheep will run into a meatgrinder without complaint if someone in authority tells them it's safe.

    Of course, this isn't the whole story, and it's written from a pro-pot point of view, but it is as factual as I could make it from what I have researched.
     
  15. TenCentArcade

    TenCentArcade Banned

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    Well, first of all, think of the government-funded departments that are in existence simply for drugs. They would be done away with, everyone in them fired.

    And you think they destroy all the drugs they confiscate? Fuck no. They destroy some for show, and turn around and sell the rest.
     
  16. TheMagicalMushy

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    They could transfer the narcs to somthing else which is obviously in need, like internet pedophiles.

    Do you have any proof they sell them at all? Who do they sell them do? Do the mass majority of the police sell them or do the dirty cops sell them?
     
  17. TenCentArcade

    TenCentArcade Banned

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    Internet pedophiles? Yeah, that's a huge problem that deserves major funding. :rolleyes:


    I don't have proof, but what proof does the original poster have that they "hate drugs because they're afraid of thinkers"? Which in itself is stupid. If they were afraid of thinkers, they would not only legalize drugs, but distribute them as well.

    And I believe they sell them to make money, and will also sell them to certain drug lords and cartels so they can re-confiscate them and make themselves look better.
     
  18. TheMagicalMushy

    TheMagicalMushy Senior Member

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    Internet pedophiles are more of a problem than most drugs. If you go on yahoo you easily get IMed by 30 year olds looking to hang out with 12 year olds in their area. Its not a very rare occaison anymore.

    They dont have any, I also agree that is stupid.

    You would think by now if that was true a drug lord would have spoken up to the media after being caught.
     
  19. jerry420

    jerry420 Doctor of everything Lifetime Supporter

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    i think eliot has a point to some extent
     
  20. TenCentArcade

    TenCentArcade Banned

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    They're in on it too. The drug lords let little men get caught so the goverment looks good, and in return they get paid off in money and drugs.

    Running a government takes money, and there is no bigger money than the money in drugs.
     

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