any nihilists in the house

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  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    Nihilism is a philosphical position which argues that the world, and especially human existence, is without objective meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value.
    Nihilists generally assert some or all of the following: there is no reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator, a "true morality" is unknown, and secular ethics are impossible; therefore, life has no truth, and no action is known to be preferable to any other

    do you think of yourself as a nihilist a neo nihilist of a person with too much black in your wardrobe .....what do you think of nihilists ....have you seen the big lebowski:)
     
  2. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Nihilism in theory is a good idea, however it doesn't work when put into practice. Just seems to relate to anarchy.
     
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    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    how can not believing in things not work ?
     
  4. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Because in the end Nihilism is the road to destruction. If you don't believe in anything then there is no sense of morality and it doesn't take into account feelings, personalities, etc.
    As I said before... it's a great idea in theory, but once put into practice it's just not kosher :p

    I ain't much of a philosopher though....
     
  5. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Is this because I accused you of being a nihilist after the discussions we had up our tower at Beautiful Days?:D

    Anyway by that definition I am a nihilist. I don't believe secular ethics are "impossible", just rather arbitrary.
     
  6. Wond'ringAloud

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    Well, all I want to know is, once you're on the fucking merry-go-round, how the hell do you get off?
    Do excuse me...I'm perfectly bladdered...and it's perfectly wonderful!
     
  7. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    up the tower... were you stewarding? Who were the geezers chasing us in the 4x4? LOL :D
     
  8. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    they would be security we would just radio in that we saw fence jumpers and get back to our hours of philosophy , we did this a couple of times

    and it wasnt because you said I was a nihilist although i might be and its not a bad thing to be accused of
     
  9. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    ahhhhh, they were shitey security. But fun fun fun :)
     
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    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    I miss my watchtower :( it was so nice we even had hot chocolate
     
  11. jonny2mad

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    I have in the past fence jumped and it is fun in fact for events that were charity based i used to jump and then donate my ticket price to the charity I so enjoyed fence jumping.

    but if I sign in for a watch tower I will try to catch people like me as thats part of the fun of fence jumping having someone trying to stop you
     
  12. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    We were lying behind a tower for what felt like ages during a brief thundery storm. Then got spotted, ran like monkeys... stopped for a rest and a beer and then got spotted again... chased by a jeep... ran into the sunflowers. Hid for ages and then tadaaaaa wonderfulness of beautiful days!

    Never had such a great game of hit :D
    Next year, I will probably buy a ticket... but to be fair, if it wasn't for Beautiful Days, I probably wouldn't get any exercise. :p
     
  13. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Where did you jump? The jumpers we saw were frankly right numpties for going in where we were in family camping because they then had to get past the security going into the festival proper...

    Ah happy days - philosophy, hot chocolate and mild vertigo[​IMG]

    Back to nihilism... I would regard myself complimented if someone said I was a nihilist. It's the only reasonable position to take. Applying it in practice doesn't mean that you have to be a heartless bastard with no ethics - it just means being aware that truth is relative. This should in fact make you far more sensitive to other ideas and cultural values than just your own.
     
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    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    whats wrong with heartess bastards with no ethics.... and you can be sensitive to other ideas and cultural values than just your own and feel it might be fun to crush them surely.
     
  15. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    There's nothing wrong with heartless bastards who surely want to crush your cultural values ... it's a perfectly valid point of view:D
     
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    come into the union district
    drive down on sharmon palms
    white ghettos paint a picture
    broken homes and broken bones
    i was so full of scotch i could not stand up
    i was hittin the shots and i moved to a cup
    release me from moral assumption
    total rejection total destruction
    nihilistic feelings are moving
    if you try real hard you’ll see right through them

    nihilism!

    come into the union district
    drive down on sharmon palms
    white ghettos paint a picture
    broken homes and broken bones
    walkin a path of self destruction
    not affected by the repercussions
    lady on the billboard offer me a drink
    said not right now i need time to think
    nihilistic feelins are movin
    if i try real hard
    i'll see right through them






    i am a fan of anarchy, but morality is never totally absent
     
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