Why do suppliers have to be so undercover?

What is stopping people from moving to china, or colombia, and shipping designer drugs into the USA?
Being a chemical supplier and having ANY of the illegal compounds, is, well, illegal, weither they're legitamate or not. And what researcher is going to be ordering AMT? And even if they are...

Clearly, no research chemical supplier in their right mind is going to deal out illegal drugs... so why aren't there any companies in random countries shipping drugs into the USA that will advertise?

edit:
P.S. I'm posting this after having read the sticky on "Finding a reliable research chemical supplier"

I just don't understand how the more reliable ones would be the legit companies that actually ship chemicals for researchers.

 

are you serious?

 

because the government hates those type of drugs.
the governmnet likes to distribute their chemicals to us. it is a money game as well.

 

It's a total money game. Think about it.

Alcohol legal yet tons of people die each year from alcohol related deaths.
Cigs legal yet laced with dangerous addictive chemical which kill tons of people each year.
Prescription medications legal and tons of side effects and some deaths.

When someone overdoses on an RC and dies the vendor of that RC goes to prison...happened here in the US. YET...how many people die each damn year from alcohol, cigs and prescription medication? LOTS. YET....the manufacturers nor the sellers will not go to prison or anything.

 

why is there so many newbies posting in this forum lately?
there have been like 5 new people asking where do i get this stuff? any other obviously stupid or pesteringquestions?
anyways i am just a little paranoid with all these newbies lurking.....

 

yeah bin thinking same thing, i dont need to be paranoid but ive noticed it.

 

I am a newbie, but its just because I'm new to this forum. Having frequented many other forums over the years I'll never cease to be amazed how thoughtless some people can be. Its quite a perplexing thing... On the one hand the growth and expansion of the psychedelic movement into the realm of mainstream society seems to be one of our best chances at legitamizing our views and attaining academic credibility for our research. On the other hand, most of these fucks are retards, and giving them unlimited access to the doors of perception is like giving a bunch of fat kids the keys to willy wonka's chocolate factory... Somebodies gonna end up being made into fudge!

I guess that this point in our society is one of those flux periods; we've rediscovered the tools to shamanistic bliss, but there is no righteous governing body in charge of the toolshed. Kind of like the industrial revolution before OSHA and labor unions. The one thing that can be said about this period in history is maybe our breed is attracting some new faces that might freshen up the age old sweat lodges and hippi haunts.

If there is one thing I can say about the designer drugs like 2ci, it is that their magic may have some effect that was missing in the two previous culture icons: LSD is too wierd and intense for the general population, and MDMA too blissful and empty for a mass cultural awakening. In 2ci and similar designer drugs we find a middle ground, clear headed empathy with psychedelic overtones... They have the ability to show us the inner workings of our minds and emotions without breaking them into a million pieces to be put back together again. While I'm sure the government will shortly attempt to control these drugs, it is my feeling that as their popularity surges the demand will offset any new hurtles presented to their availability. Like LSD in the 60's and MDMA in the 80's, 2ci or one of the other magical half dozen will be the drug of the 00's. After 20 years a new generation of youth is getting ready to bound against the restrictions of a repressive and conservative society, and we as the ones who came before are obligated to help guide them. Hopefully we're able to do as well or better than those who guided us. Can I get an Amen?
-MOR

"Be sparing in your use of the key,
If you are not, you'll end up like me,
Chasing your bliss, lost in ecstasy,
Just another old burned-out hippi"

 

Wow. When I make a new web-site I just might hire you for the writing. You have a way with words.

 

That would be cool, I just quit my job. If I could find some way to support myself with words... I'd be in heaven.
-MOR

 

How bout coming up with new words and selling them on e-bay ?

 

LOL...actually...I have seen dumber things then that actually sell on ebay.

 

^^amen

 

While your words may seem harsh, the truth usually is. Searching exclusively on my own, I've come up with a boatload of sources, and honestly, if you're unwilling to put in the effort to find sources, you don't deserve to be using RCs.

Myself, I just anxiously await the day I move(~2 weeks) so i can set up a po box on my new city and get things fully on their way.

 

the gov't does scour the net. they do get names of undesirable mail order locations. those addresses are flagged. all packages from said sources is specially inspected. if it passes , the reciever pays alot extra for the search. If it fails, at the very least, the reciever is now on a watch list, more likely they will be allowed to accept so they can be prosocuted.
"They" have way more computers than you.
If you can find it, they did and logged it.
But feel free.
I was refering to finished product, not ingredients.
But ingredient supplyers are susceptiple to the same system.
Ebay....Cops offer ingredients on Ebay just to track whom recievs em.
Have fun.

 

Roflcopter. While I do understand your apranoia to a certain degree, under your line of thinking, how could you assume that ANy source (regardless of how safe you believe it to be) is safe. I mean, if they really put in all the effort, it certainly would be no stretch to get an undercover into the internet RC subculture and grab URLS to their heart's content.

 

Exactly! There is no way that anybody can start a company that consumers will discover but not the law won't. So why even try to hide? Because the gov't will only take action against the most popular sites? But again, the gov't can't really shut down chemical suppliers overseas.

Also, about them searching packages from certain addresses... the chemical supplier could easily just use discreet shipping.

And about my spelling: it's awful... I know.

P.S. I'm not whining about not being able to find suppliers.

 

Stop wining about not being able to find suppliers!

 

You must differ between resources that run their own catalogue on an internet site and e-mail-only resources.
The first may be found by authorities, but I doubt, that even 10% of the e-mail-resources are known to them.

 

Well, what about discreet shipping? Why can't companies use discreet shipping, or why don't more of them use it? That would solve the whole packages being search problem, wouldn't it?

 

Uh, yeah. I'll look up "discreet shipping" in the Yellow Pages.

Whaddaya mean, like a guy in a black '59 Cadillac running the stuff to your house in his trunk in the middle of the night?