go see the film "an inconvenient truth" by al gore

just seen "an inconvenient truth"

from a political perspective it is illuminating.

gore brings the point that global warming is going to change the world by displacing the worlds populations.

(world history dictates that this brings immense upheaval (gore does not follow this line of inquiry)

i won't say much more about this but if you want to understand where we stand as a civillisation it would be a good idea to see this film and digest its line of thought.

 

Why the hell should I listen to what Al Gore has to say, he's just a shill who went along with the 2000 coverup. He's probably getting a paycheck from the Bush Administration as we speak.

 

he's just the host, guy.

Just cause he's a shill doesn't make the points raised in the film any less legit.

Shit, even chomsky says something worthwhile every now and again...

 

Since you've opened the door, i'm guessing you're going to follow up with examples? links? reports?

 

What?

You mean here:

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159827

I would hardly call that "dozens of times" or evidence that "The movie's been panned by the bulk of the scientific community"....

You made the comment, are you going to back it up?

 

Professor Bob Carter
Dr. Tim Ball
Professor Tim Patterson
Dr. Boris Winterhalter
Dr. Wibj–rn KarlÈn
Dr. Dick Morgan
Dr. Roy Spencer

I count 7 people.

Is that the bulk of the scientific community then?

 

Carter and Patterson were already mentioned.
They are 2 of the 7 you've already brought up.


They don't represent the "bulk of the scientific community".

And while you did feel it might help to restate: "HUNDREDS OF HIGHLY QUALIFIED", you haven't listed any of them or the organizations they belong to...

 

Wiki is the source of the quotes, not the reports.

 

So then when you said: "The movie's been panned by the bulk of the scientific community", you were not telling the truth?

I have read the Summary for policy makers as well as the report itself and it does conclude that 1.) the earth is getting warmer and 2.) human activity plays a significant role in that process.

 

Just be honest guy.


The "bulk of the scientific community" believes global warming is exascerbated by human activity and a growing global concern for both the short-term and long-term future of the planet.

There are groups and individual scientists (even climatologists) who claim that not enough evidence has been brought forth to say decidedly one way or another, but for you to claim the support of the "bulk of the scientific community" is absurd.

 

You still have not provided evidence of the "bulk of the scientific community" panning the film.

only 7 guys

 

It's probably on the same site that endorses Intelligent Design and Flat Earth Theory...

 

You're still posting, but i'm still not seeing any evidence to support your original statement....

 

from the reaction of some people you'd think i'd ask people to worship the devil!
just see the movie, make your own mind up

 

I'm just asking for you to back up your statement that "the bulk of the scientific community" has panned this film.
5 days later and still nothing...

 

I enjoyed the movie and the science behind it seemed valid.

The only problem I had with the movie was Al Gore (I know a zebra can't change it's stripes) but Al Gore appeared as robotic as his critics have always claimed.

There were moments of humor, but just not quite enough to endear him to the general public or his audience.


Hotwater

 

i didn't find his personality that stilted. (as an aside government should always be run by capable, thinking individuals not darned fools.)

i found al's personality engaging and quite amusing actually, i warmed to him. the film is really a lecture on global warming. al speaks and justifies his position by using references/ data, on the otherhand the film's conceptually difficult for people accustomed to receiving information in nibbles so often farmed out by the dancing bears of the media. many a time i have seen people walk out from films that broke the psychological barrier of 1 1/2 hours.

al asks us to think, he presents his argument that a climatic change is occurring. what is interesting about the film is that it gathers the threads of information that most are aware of, and ties them up into a cohesive assessment which shows cause and effect.

whilst thinking about the argument being presented by al, i could not help thinking that society isn't ready to change. historically humans for the most part are no wiser than your average beast, we are reactive rather than proactive. my own feeling is that it will be planetary catastrophe that solves the problem - not our brains. your average joe has his brains firmly embedded into his wallet he looks no further, invariably all manner of social ills spring forth from this font .

 

Everything I hear about global warming coming from self-proclaimed, so-called liberals is a lie. But, because people are uninformed, they will believe whatever their establishment-given heros tell them, never thinking twice (or even once).

Anyone who has studied historical records knows that the weather changes we are experiencing are CYCLICAL in nature and not the cause of greenhouse gases, as the Global Elite wants you to believe so they can push more international laws.

 

debatable

it's also possible that they continue to allow greenhouse gases to perpetuate global warming in order to push more international laws, tighten their grip on natuaral resources, and justify oppression through actual scarcity...

just like Peak, whether the threat is real or not it works in their favor.