SCROG vs. LST Outdoors?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Outdoors' started by T.H. Cammo, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. T.H. Cammo

    T.H. Cammo Member

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    Okay, for any number of reasons one may want to keep their plants low. Let's say security is the main issue! It seems to me that LST and SCROG both do about the same thing, they keep the plant low and the canapy even; hopefully allowing more light onto the budsites!

    Which method is more suitable outdoors?

    How about some "modified" versions? Is there a better way to keep a plant low? How low? What screen material works best? What size of screen - size of opening and overall size? How many plants per sceen? What kind of luck have you had? Particular problems? Is it just a waste of time? Any part you wish to comment on or anything else you wish to add to the discussion is fine and more than welcomed!!!

    Everybody with any experience at all at trying these methods outdoors is welcome to throw in their $.02 worth! If you have an opinion but haven't actually tried one of these methods - you're invited too! A lot of the "Newb's" don't seem to know about or understand how these methods work indoors! I'm thinking that outdoors is a whole different ballgame - same rules, different action!!!
     
  2. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

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    Here's what a friend of mine did.
    He topped the plant a total of like 5 or 6 times and grew it under a dome of chicken wire, training it to grow under the dome.
    He attached plastic yellow flowers and red berries (got them at a crafts shop).
    I sat next to one of these plants for 15 minutes without realizing what it was, because everyone knows pot plants grow in an x-mas tree shape and certainly don't have flowers and berries.
    It wasn't until I went to pick a berry that I realized what was what.
     
  3. dash

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    friggin sweet, I'm gonna have to try out that idea Ranger!

    I haven't done outdoors yet, but I would say another way to hide it and keep it low is to vine it. Not sure if that's the actual term for it, but basicly LST it to grow more horazontal with like a trelless or a fence, then you can have a perimiter of weed. I heard of someone doing this around their food garden and it hid it pretty well.
     
  4. T.H. Cammo

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    Hey Ranger!
    I've run across that idea a couple of times in the past. It still cracks me up when I hear it!!! It's one of those "It sounds so crazy it must work" ideas!!! The extra topping and the chicken wire dome is a new twist but it makes perfect sense really. Plus, the flowers and berries could be securely mounted to the dome. I might just have to try that!!!

    Hey Dash!
    Yeah! The term is espalier, I had to look it up, i never can remember how to spell it! LOL I've been thinking about something like this. Kind of a homemade trellis that lays flat above the ground. Maybe I can put some flowers on it!!

    Okay! Two good ideas so far!!! Who's next? We gotta have some more ideas! How much ground clearance should I have for any kind of SCROG, trellis or LST? I was on another site and I saw an outdoor SCROG that stood up like a Hockey Goal Net - has anybody tried that?
     
  5. T.H. Cammo

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    Well - it seems awfully quite in the Outdoor section lately!!! I'm sure some more of you have had experience with keeping things "low keyed"! Come on - we all know how important security is, let's hear about it!!!
    Anything about SCROG, LST or low cammo, outdoors.
     
  6. andrewd00m

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    idk about topping 5 or 6 times. i know when i top it really stunts and slows my plants growth. plus its been proven that if a female plant is put under too much stress it can become hermie or even male. id say top once MAYBE twice then LST until harvest unless youre lazy then until flowering.goodluck.
     
  7. T.H. Cammo

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    I have topped plants, outdoors, three times - giving eight meristems. But by that time the side branches are the tallest part of the canopy anyway. You'd have to start topping the side branches - but hey, why not!!! I shouldn't think topping would be anymore stressful than taking clone cuttings, maybe it is, h -u-m-m?
     
  8. BudBill

    BudBill Dark Helmet

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    Ahhh topping, FIMing, LSTing, is not the type of stress that will promote the hermies like light and heat stress. People have had mothers (<- plants ;) ) for years with no hermie traits.

    If I had to pick a method I would take a page from BOGs book. He would tip the pot almost on its side and the main stem would grow at almost a 90' angle. That and the plastic mesh (staked down) would be great for snaking the main stem parallel to the ground. Of course good THCammo plants ;) would have to be interspersed.
     
  9. Kikbuty

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    NEWBIE HERE!

    What are some good camo plants?
    I really should search the forum more for this before I ask. But I'm asking anyway.

    I'm considering my first grow in the spring. Camo would be good.
     
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