Save Time ! Yours And Everyonelses !

I dont mind answering peoples questions here at all but it is time consuming and people who are asking questions could cut out a lot of wasted time by
listing specific details about their computer or operating system.
use this tool to give you a lot of info about your system
http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dlsystemspec.html

If you have a problem it would be nice to know straight away
a few details such as Operating system manufacturer and version: Example Windows XP version of any software you are having a problem with
Type of CPU and its speed in MHZ or AMD equivalent
etc etc

Otherwise it just makes the whole thing too time consuming to ask and wait for a reply

 

Yeah. It would simplify things wouldn't it?!
Same for any device they may be having problems with.
Webcam, etc...

 

Here's a link to another Forum's slick diag program.
http://downloads.technutopia.com/beardiag/BearDiag.exe

BTW they're a Good source of free help amongst other things...
http://www.technutopia.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=36

 

DO NOT USE BEARSHARE
OR ANY OF THE RELATED PRODUCTS
I wouldnt trust anything to do with Bearshare nor beardiag
Bearshare is a major headache as it not only infects your computer with spyware but reinfects it when you try to remove it - I would steer clear of bearshare at all costs
The first and last time I put that stuff on my computer - I just wiped the hard drive afterwards it was safer
http://www.du.edu/uts/helpdesk/software/spyware.html

Mcaffee with 19 testimonials as to the complexity and problems associated with bearshare and associated products
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/bearshare.com

This is advice from another antivirus/ntispyware site

 

I'm relieved to know you researched before you posted.
I welcome the warning to take your advice w/copious amounts of salt.

Had you made any halfassed attempt you would have found Techuntopia is not affiliated w/bearshare in any shape/form/fashion.

I have found beardiag to be very helpful in solving problems.
Run it and you'll see it is a diagnostic routine not bearshare or the like.

Feel free to wear your blinders
but do others a favor by researching before opening One's mouth.

Thank you for your continued support.




BTW I've been running the bearshare beta 5.1.0b025 (above) for over a year w/the only problems being actual content on the Gnutella Network.

I'm a former beta tester, so yeah, I have more than just a clue when something's not kosher...

 

well when someone from technutopia posts this BS about bearshare (an administrator
none-the-less) You have to wonder as to their credibility or technical competence
http://www.technutopia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250

If that is the level of their expertise they can keep it

The simple answer is that if you run Bearshare and your computer becomes slow, though it wasnt running slow before, then bearshare is using resources to see what resources you need to look at your task manager
then do a netstat -a command
and run some diagnostics on data going in and out as you run bearshare - a simple packetsniffer will do

Well, a beta tester of what?, for whom?, A lot of people are beta testers it usually just means you volounteer - it dont mean a) you picked up all thje problems, or b) the software vendors chose to iron out the problems - it just means you test software for other people - usually with the chance to buy at lower cost or get it free - to see that the above is true I refer you to the entire history of Microsoft
I've worked in everything from mainframe environments to small networks for large corporations, and small businesses running networks and batch processing
since I left school at 16 - over 25 years ago
I now run my own company designing network solutions and installing them - and believe me when something smells fishy - you blame the dead fish

I am well aware of 180solutions and their obnoxious software and also the fact that
they were investigated by the FBI - but I still wouldnt trust them
you may like to look around this site
http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/180-affiliates/

http://www.benedelman.org

It may interest you to know I have had correspondence with Ben Edelman about the
180 solutions software and its effects and alerted him to another of their sites
(a sister company)
BTW considering Ben Edelman forced 180 solutions to get rid of grokster and bearshare they hardly seem repentant and state they initiated the actions against malware providers - HA HA HA - the FBI promised 180solutions directors jail if they didnt co-operate
heres the 180solutions blog
http://www.zango.com/destination/corporate/blog.aspx?page=/PermaLink,guid,df3b0b4f-e71a-4082-b3a1-bc3ddde9e6d9.aspx
sounds like a load of shark eating the phirana huh?

 

You obviously have logic/reading comprehension deficiencies.
If you had read much more you would've seen that Jay's posts are as suspect as your own... *c*

Bottom Line?
beardiag.exe is a informative/inert/nonfishy smelling program not associated w/bearshare the file sharing app.
There is a difference between the two.
I'll mention the possible need to rename the app as a result of prejudices/lack of knowledge of Folks such as yourself.


Why the hardon?
Have you tried the app yet? *curious*

 

What is this - I will make one more post and this is it - Ok bearshare and bear diag:
Bear diag purports to be a diagnostic program for bearshare users -
It does not inform anyone of the precautions they should take against bearshare or its links with spyware . Technutopia likens the problems with bearshare to memory problems - they are not - they are because bearshare is using processing power. The problem is that bearshare is packed with a load of spyware that you cannot refuse to load onto your computer - read the FBI and Ben Edelman story
Look if you have a problem here about people who point out the truth rather than you halfbaked ideas about whats cool I cant answer to that - people can either go with bearshare or they leave it - I've posted all the links they need to get the truth now I suggest you leave it - unless you are/were a tester for
180solutions or the bearshare project in which case I cant help that you were duped into those rancid programs or companies- thats it end of story you seem to have a LOT of interest in getting people to use that stuff - drop it !!!

I notice you never said anything about the ben edelman story or the fact that technutopia actively promotes a whole host of spyware and is perhaps the most misinformed help site I have seen in the past 3 months

Maybe you'd like to offer your condolences to 180solutions and the 2billion dollars a year they now lose because the FBI closed down their viral spyware scams
Next you will be telling everyone Grockster is a wonderful peice of software too

 

Enough of your "halfbaked ideas about whats cool".

I have no problems w/the Truth - I'm prolly the only beta tester banned from the old bearshare Labs Forum when I told them EXACTLY what would happen down the Road... and happen it did.
Thank you for mentioning Ben Edelman.
I mentioned him and his work to FreePeers during the period just before my ban.
Wonder if there's a connection? *L*

Anywho beardiag is no more a diag app strictly for bs users
than Belarc Advisor is for _________ users.


I am curious about
"technutopia actively promotes a whole host of spyware and is perhaps the most misinformed help site I have seen in the past 3 months".

Specifically what "host of spyware" and
how are they more misinformed than yourself?


Geesh...

 

Oh yeah - almost forgot...

You haven't even run beardiag have you?
Funny I don't remember you or anyone else listing all the mean n nasty things the app does to a PC.

 

Um, I am the author of the BearDiag diagnostics utility, and take umbrage to your panning of the program. As the originator of this thread said, there is a need to identify a number of details to assist with troubleshooting.

BearDiag extracts these details and presents them in a manner which assists with getting rid of spyware and resolving other issues. If you had the opportunity to try it, you would see that it even invoked HiJackThis, one of the most respected anti-badware tools used widely in the anti-badware industry (I'm sure you use it in your day-to-day operations also).

The BearDiag program is currently in beta. I am always open to suggestions on improvements, and you are welcome to try the latest version found at http://downloads.technutopia.com/beardiag/BearDiag.exe and provide feedback in the forums there at http://www.technutopia.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=36

Have a visit to www.technutopia.com and see the gist of the posts in relation to spyware and adware. The versions of BearShare that are recommended there do not contain adware, spyware, or any other addon-ware. A significant portion of the support forum posts involve killing off various forms of badware that affects all programs on the PC, not just peer-to-peer programs.

Yes I wholeheartedly agree that the 180-solutions Zango is a particularly nasty form of infection, but consider it a mere nuisance when tackled with the correct protection. I certainly would not advocate the wholesale wiping of your hard drive as an effective method to eliminate spyware - a bit over the top isn't it?

Your analysis of the internal operations of BearShare is accurate - yes it does use system resources (by design). Yes is does make a lot of Internet connections (by design - it is a peer-to-peer program after all). Yes some versions had bundled nastyware (you need to research which and avoid them - the www.technutopia.com forums discuss which ones in greater depth). Yes, it is easy to avoid these and still have a program that provides for heavy duty, reliable file transfer across the Gnutella backbone.

Had you researched a little further, you may have noticed that the 180-solutions Zango bundleware appeared when the new owners took over the product, a sure sign of their RIAA affiliations and a signal to check their intentions very carefully.

Tarring all products that have the four letters 'bear' with the same black brush seems a little over the top, doesn't it?

Could I respectfully suggest you familarise yourself with the www.Technutopia.com site a little further before pronouncing yourself the arbiter of who does and who doesn't promote badware. You may find that in fact they have a whole lot of experience that you may be able to learn from.

Disclaimer: I am not, nor have ever been associated with Bearshare, FreePeers, iMesh, the RIAA, MPAA except as a user of BearShare. My time, support and programming efforts in relation to BearDiag and Technutopia are provided voluntarily without any fee or favors.

 

Before I start read this you admit that software you recommend comes bundled with whenu
an analysis of technutopia by macaffee on 26th January 2006
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/technutopia.com

On macaffees site you say whenu advertising is not a threat??? AND THAT YOU DONT PROFIT FROM IT !!!!
ARE YOU TAKING THE PISS ?????

You then make a link to an article on whenu's site - ha ha ha ! gimme a break !
read all three pages of ordinary people testifying to whenu's ability to screw everyone over ! http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/whenu.com
So its Kinda like that film "mars attacks" -where the martians are saying "come back we are your friends".
Why not drop that tacky whenu shit - theyre a dodgy scrawny little company - its whenu with bearshare attatched to it youre pushing - really isnt it ? - otherwise why not push some other p2p thats clean
http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu-privacy/

That says it all - but for the record
It seems to me youre saying beardiag helpss you clean up after zango - but you promote whenu - whats the bloody difference !? except its one spyware for another ?
I dont really care if you are bill gates or anyone else but anyone who tells me that 180solutions software isnt any threat to business or that it doesnt cost businesses much money to clean is living in cloud cuckoo land - just what is your interest in protecting 180solutions and whenu, before I go on, cuz if thats what you call a minor problem and you believe it - ha ha ha you can keep your software mate ! I aint interested - you promote pollution and I'll promote health

and just how are my users on networks supposed to know the difference? they can hardly switch a computer on let alone fiddle about wondering if its the new improved bearshare or the old virus ridden pants that everyones come to expect from p2p these days

Its not new owners its a merger between hotbar and 180solutions. Also Edelman hints at the fact that the FBI forced 180solutions to snitch up on the other fraudsters and nogoods or face prosecution - they wet their pants and complied - now theyre passing it off like they went to the FBI first

As far as it goes - its your defence of 180, zango, and whenu, thats making me suspicious

your software (beardiag) may turn out good but whenu, 180 and zango is a scummy peice of dodgy crap and so are the people that work for 180 and zango producing that shit ! AND I WOULDNT PROMOTE WHENU EVEN IF YOU OFFERED ME ENOUGH MONEY TO LIVE OFF FOR A YEAR - I AINT A WHORE !!! I spend time I dont even get paid for to keep them whores out of networks its a bandwidth waster

check here the amount of shit zango causes to people read and weep man - the internets a brilliant invention and those zango whores are loading this crap as edelman points out ! to catch people unawares
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/zango.com
and whenu is JUST as bad
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/whenu.com
and if you are calling macafee liars take it to them not me !
Maybe if more people spent time petitioning their government and the FBI to once and for all time do something we could spend less money and time worrying about it !! instead of paying people to write programs that clean it up - GET IT STOPPED
15 years in jail should sort out dodgy advertising techniques, spammers, and other lowlife or $125 million in a class action


INFACT FUCK YOUR PROGRAM I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY !!!!
IT STINKS JUST A BIT TOO MUCH FOR MY LIKING ! FROM WHAT I've read and posted here
PERSONALLY - I MYSELF WOULDNT TOUCH IT WITH A BARGEPOLE
ANYONE ELSE READING THIS MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND !!
YOU ASKED MY OPINION AND I TOLD YOU - but I aint gonna bother replying to your next post thats it - I've said all I gotta say !
Thats a personal preference ! mine
you sell your program as you want but dont ask me to support it cuz I cant its just based on what experts like edelman say ! But if people here ask I'll give them those links and this opinion OK? IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE MY OPINION CHANGE MACAFEES OPINION AND EDELMANS - I got no reason to doubt them ! Edelman is a lawmaker and works with the law - whenu, 180,zango, seem to be the problem ! when macafee and edelmans opinion changes - so will mine -

 

Still no response.


Figures.

Anyone that cannot/ will not understand the difference between
beardiag the diag utility and BearShare the p2p file sharing program
doesn't have any business behind a PC's keyboard
much less giving advice...

 

refer to post #12
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3026109&postcount=12

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but beardiag was not mentioned.

You're leading more credence to Posts #10 and #13.

 

Drop it you should never have raised it and done what whenu do - just ignore the anti - posts its you and the guy in post 11 brought this up - perhaps you should learn when its a good thing to let things go
you PM'd me aggresively to say the poster in #11 was having a go at me - I answered all your questions in post 12
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/sho...09&postcount=12
if all you want to do is have the last word so you feel you won - go ahead - fill yer boots but this is it as far as I'm concerned you called me out - not the other way around -
now - thats it ok ! I've told you what I think
If you want to promote dodgy advertisers like whenu and zango - do it -
I dont give a toss if people choose to disbelieve edelman and macafeee
but if youre calling me a liar well the links speak for themselves
Edelman is a reputable man with a GREAT career ahead of him and macafee have more expertise than you'll know in a lifetime
All youre doing is making it more difficult - youre actually promoting the argument against you

 

Have you been drinking or do you run around half cocked as a mater of routine?

Seriously.

 

Yeah man thats always the way to lose - hit the guy not the argument

HA HA HA
BAWOUHAAAAAAAAARHGAR Beardiag BAWAAAAAAAAAAHA
Bearshare WOUHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
WHENU HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR
ZANGO BAAAWAAAAAAAR

 

WTF?

You been so far out in left field since your first post in this thread
I was curious if it was just you or...?

Actually I believe you lost this discussion (beardiag) and your credibility
when you refused to deal directly w/the original topic and
started dispensing your uninformed assumptions/ guesses and
later refused to acknowledge you were mistaken...

Maybe none of your customers have read any of this...

 

I refer people to post number 12
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3026109&postcount=12