What If Israel Had Never Been Created?

What If Israel Had Never Been Created?

William Hughes
July 11, 2006

ÒImagine thereÕs no countries...Nothing to live or die for...Imagine all the people living life in peace.Ó - John Lennon

Thanks mostly to U.S. President Harry S. Truman and his Òsusceptibility to Zionist influence,Ó Israel came into existence in 1948. (1) Humanity, and in particular, the Palestinians, have paid dearly for his decision. The land on which the Palestinians had been living for centuries, in peace, with a minority Jewish population, has been gradually transformed into an Apartheid state by the machinations of the Zionist Movement. That Apartheid state, in turn, is today dominated by IsraelÕs Death-Mayhem-and- Occupation Machine. (2)

One wonders: What would the world look like today, if the state of Israel had not been created in 1948? Its improvident formation seems to have set in motion a chain of events, mostly negative, in the affairs of Mankind. In the movie, ÒClick,Ó the lead character finds a Òuniversal remoteÓ that allows him to rewind to different parts of his life and to change what had happened. If I possessed such a Òuniversal remoteÓ and could stop President Truman from aiding and abetting the establishment of an Israeli state, then, it is my speculation, (a theory), that the following 25 propositions would probably be our present day reality. They are:

1. The U.S. would not have any enemies in the Islamic World.

2. There would be no Al-Qaeda Terrorist Network.

3. Gasoline would be selling for less than $1 a gallon.

4. There would have been no 9/11.

5. There would be no USA Patriot Law.

6. There would be no Homeland Security Agency.

7. The Israeli LobbyÕs Òunmatched powerÓ over the U.S.Õ foreign policy, for over four decades, would not had existed. (Its support for the Iraqi War was deemed by the experts to be Òcritical.Ó) (3)

8. There would also not have been any Neocon ideologues; like Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, Richard Perle, et al, to help, (along with other ÒSpecial InterestsÓ), to push the U.S. into an illegal war with Iraq. (4)

9. Iran would not be the next target for U.S. aggression. (No Israel. No ÒA Clean BreakÓ document. No Israeli Lobby. No Neocons. No need for the U.S. to attack Iran.) (5)

10. The Zionist fink, Jonathan Pollard, wouldnÕt be in prison for stealing U.S. military secrets and hawking them to Israel.

11. The three million-plus Palestinians, who were forcefully dispersed from their homeland, since 1948, by the Israeli Occupation Forces, (IOF), would, instead, be living happily there today, in a free and independent state of Palestine. There would be no Apartheid Wall, or as a corollary, a Hamas organization. (6)

12. Jerusalem would have a vibrant Christian population. (7)

13. Rachel Corrie of Olympia, WA, would be alive and well. (8)

14. The 2,544 Americans who have died in Iraq would be alive; and the 18,777, who have been seriously wounded there, would be fully participating in our Republic. U.S. taxpayers would have an additional $295 billion, (the cost of the war), in the treasury to use to serve the social needs of the people. Universal Health Care would be a real possibility and Social Security would not be in jeopardy. Iraq would be at peace. There would be no Gitmo Bay detention center, or an Abu Ghraib Prison, or a reason for the Bush-Cheney Gang to gut Habeas Corpus. No need for it to also employ torturers, or chemical weapons, or hold detainees without charges or trial. The Geneva Convention would be respected. The tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, who have died as a result of the war, would instead be alive today. (At the following footnote, see horrific photos of some of the Iraqi dead.) (9)

15. The battle to save our planet, its fragile ecosystem, its fast vanishing animal life and plants and to combat global warming, would be issue ÒNo. 1.Ó (10) Instead, we are perpetually bombarded with propaganda about defending ÒIsraelÕs security.Ó

16. If there was no Israel, then the Òfive dancing IsraelisÓ on 9/11 wouldnÕt have been arrested. They were nailed after ÒcelebratingÓ in NJ, while watching the Twin Towers collapsed. (11)

17. U.S. taxpayers would be $140 billion richer! This is the staggering amount they have shelled out over the last 58 years to support the ultra-greedy interests of the Zionist Cartel. (3)

18. The 34 Americans onboard the USS Liberty, who were slaughtered by the IOF, on June 8, 1967, would be alive today; and the 174 others who had suffered injuries that day would not have had to endure their horrific experiences. The shame the U.S. carries for not having quickly defended the men of the Liberty, and retaliated against the Israelis for their deliberate attack on the vessel, would have been avoided. (12)

19. On June 13, 2006, the IOF killed ten Palestinians, including three medical workers and two children, in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, labeled the missile attack an example of Òstate terrorism.Ó Only God knows how many Palestinians the Israelis have actually wasted since 1948; or exactly how many refugees it has created, or how many homes, a la Oliver Cromwell, the IOF have demolished. None of this would have been possible without the dubious Òstate of Israel.Ó (13)

20. Paul Bremer, a coat holder for Henry ÒIagoÓ Kissinger, would have never been appointed Viceroy for an Occupied Iraq. No Israel. No Iraqi War. No Zionist Bremer as Viceroy of Iraq. (14)

21. One of the reasons the Warren Commission failed to properly investigate the murder of JFK was because of Arlen Specter (R-PA), a card carrying Zionist. He was then a ÒSpecial CounselÓ to the Commission. He concocted the preposterous ÒMagic BulletÓ theory, which shut down any real conspiracy-type probe. It is also interesting to note, that Jacob Rubenstein, aka, ÒJack Ruby,Ó Lee Harvey OswaldÕs murderer, had close ties to Meyer LanskyÕs National Crime Syndicate. I believe the answer to who really plotted JFKÕs killing, died with Oswald. In any event after JFKÕs death, IsraelÕs nuclear weapons program, which he had opposed went ahead. U.S. aid to Israel also increased dramatically. (15)

22. There would have been no reason for a French Ambassador to refer to Israel as Òthat shitty little country.Ó (16) In fact, the Jews of the world would have been liberated to fulfill their deepest spiritual quest, as embodied in their religion - Judaism. According to the highly respected Orthodox Rabbi, Dovid Yisroel Weiss, ÒZionism has hijacked Judaism.Ó The courageous Rabbi insists that, ÒZionism creates anti-Semitism...And we know...Zionism is the root cause for the pain, suffering and bloodshed of the Jewish people...and, they, (the Zionists), are the greatest factory of anti-Semitism worldwide...Judaism and Zionism is not one and the same. They are diametrically opposite...We should not be mistaken one for the other. And, we shouldnÕt be responsible for the actions of what the Zionists do...Now, another of the problems that emanate actually from the Zionist Movement is the fact that they are encroaching upon the rights of the Palestinian people, the indigenous people, who are living there. And, this is terribly wrong. It is against every concept of the Torah...So, whatever they are doing is totally wrong!Ó (17)



23. Thousands of Israelis have died attempting to build a nation in a land, Palestine, which belonged to another people, the Palestinians. Their deaths would have been avoided. (18)

24. The widespread spying on Americans, without a court order, by operatives of the Bush-Cheney Gang, would have never happened. (No Israel. No 9/11. No spying on U.S. citizens.)

25. On April 4, 2003, a European Union (EU) poll named Israel as the Ògreatest threat to world peace.Ó (19) On June 27, 2006, the IOF proved the EU right by reoccupying Gaza, savagely terrorizing the civilian population, blowing up their electric/water generating facilities, conducting a mass arrest of their elected officials, and also, without just cause, provoking the Syrians. In response to the repeated shelling by the IOF of Gaza, IsraelÕs Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, wisecracked, ÒNobody dies from being uncomfortable!Ó When he addressed a Joint Session of the U.S. Congress, on May 24, 2006, Olmert received 38 breaks of applause and 18 standing ovations from that entity of mostly lapdogs. This is also the same Israeli leader, who, paraphrasing George Orwell's ÒAnimal Farm,Ó said that he had a Òdeep regretÓ about the effects of some IOFÕs operations which had killed 14 innocent Palestinians in just nine days, but that the lives of Israeli citizens were Òeven more important.Ó(20) Finally, if there wasnÕt a Zionist-created Israel, there also wouldnÕt be any need for a commentary like this one!

Notes:

1. http://www.counterpunch.org/clark06032006.html

2. http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/index.htm

3. http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf; and, http://www.counterpunch.org/christison06162006.html

4. http://batr.net/neoconwatch/archives/2004_12_01_neoconswatch_archive.html; and http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/offtowar.html

5. Chalmer JohnsonÕs ÒSorrows of Empire.Ó

6. http://www.ameu.org/index.asp

7. http://hcef.org/hcef/; Scott McConnellÕs ÒDivided & Conquered,Ó TAC, 07/03/06; http://woodstock.georgetown.edu/publications/column_Feb2001.htm; and http://www.icahduk.org/documents/SupportSabeel.htm

8. http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

9. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/uncensored

10. http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/lectures/448

11. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

12. http://www.ussliberty.org/

13. http://www.pchrgaza.org/

14. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1522983,00.html

15. Peter Dale ScottÕs ÒDeep Politics and the Death of JFKÓ and Stephen GreenÕs ÒTaking Sides: AmericaÕs Secret Relationship with a Militant Israel.Ó

16. http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/french-ambassador.html

17. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm and http://usa.mediamonitors.net/headlines/rabbi_weiss_rips_ariel_sharon_zionism and http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/5200/index.php

18. http://wrmea.org/

19. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1022127,00.html

20. Ravi NessmanÕs ÒIsrael Steps Up Offensive,Ó AP, 07/03/06; Boston GlobeÕs ÒAgony of Gaza,Ó 07/07/06; and http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1095841.ece

© William Hughes 2006.

William Hughes is the author of ÒSaying ÔNoÕ to the War PartyÓ (IUniverse, Inc.). He can be reached at liamhughes@comcast.net.

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Wow, that's a lot to blame on zionism...


You honestly think it's that simple?

 

Nothing in the zionist agenda, which has remained consistent from its inception to the present day, is "simple", conniving and calculated and immensely patient yes, but "simple" no.

The root cause of the generations of upheaval, illegal wars of aggression, destabilisations, illicit covert overthrows of democratically elected leaders, and the economic vicissitudes which have steadily flowed therefrom can all be layed at the door of the grasping, 19th century colonialist era-minded ideology and the exceptionalistic group particularist ashkenazi state it conspired (behind closed doors) with leading world powers of the time to create.

It was from the start and has to this day acted as a corporatist hegemonic platform for regional land and resource domination. All farcical reference to it by Israeli state propagandists and their manifold zionist lackies (particularly the rabid and quite dangerous apocalytpic Christian Zionists throughout the Bible Belt of the US) as merely a "haven for Jews" - or more beligerently, "the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and promise" - are nothing more than snide abuses of religious symbology for the empowerment of a completely militaristic and godless power elite at the expense of generations of formerly peaceful and productive peoples.

As South African apartheid and German Naziism were rightly recognised as vile inhuman and unjust ideologies, so too must people open their eyes to the last of that same era's ill-begotten fruits, namely the Zionist ideology, and push for its complete censure and international judgement.

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/ZionistCoverup.pdf

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/archives_roll/2004_04-06/dale_impact/dale_impact.html

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Israel_Propaganda_Strategy.html

http://www.zmag.org/meastwatch/israeleth1.htm

 

israel and its powerbrokers will go the way of all invaders of the area, the israelis will eventually get kicked out. the authorities of the area are simply caretakers of the area. palestine has seen its fairshare of fanatics before, they all go the same way. wow a whole new country since 1948, geez thats nearly 60 years. the "history" in the bible and history generally shows one thing, "those who fail to negotiate - fail".

pity the american taxpayer that it's paying for and fighting a religious war. this is what happens when the religious fanatic gets control. the secular jews, part time christians and aware muslims should refuse to get involved in this war. let the fanatics send their own children and money to die for god. why don't they? well its better that the non believer pays and dies than the "chosen", this is god's way. i don't see any rabbis, bishops or mullahs fighting this war or for that matter anyone who believes in this war, they all sit on the homefront waving the flag.

 

This is silly beyond reason. I can just as easily make a list of things that would never happen if the U.S. was never created... or any other country with a history of war.

 

The zionists are also the ones pushing multiculturalism in all white countries in order to destroy Christian European civilization while at the same time having stolen Palestinian land.

Read about in The Culture of Critique (heavy academic stuff) by Professor Kevin MacDonald. In essence Judaim is less a religion and more a "racial survival strategy" via the use of the Babylonian Talmud as one the central pillars of Judaic behavioral reinforcement. These are the facts, not opinions.

 

so why don't you?

theres no harm in doing this is there?

isn't this thread about cause and effect?

if you love israel so much i can only deduce that you must live there and if you don't why don't you?

 

he has every right to voice his oppinion...chill out ...just because you get wet in your panties talking about it ...dont expect everyone

 

i am asking him a question

this a forum where debate occurs

welcome to hippyland

 

Damn guy, you had to ruin a perfectly interesting and debatable topic with your "god save the civilized white man" routine, didn't you?

And i think it's cute that you feel the need to point out: heavy academic stuff.

AAAWWW, nazis using big words, how sweet....

 

Gee....Ah....where to start.......Guess you dont like Jews ?

1. Sure we would have enimies. Its exactly like Hitler said " If the Jew did not exist we would have to create him " These failed states of the Middle East need to find a focus for thier anger other than thier own inadaeuacies. we are it.

2. Al Queda was born during the Russian invasion of Afganistan, Col Oliver North was the midwife. They want war, we are it.

3. Gasoline would be priced about where it is now. Capitalists will earn thier money. Demand willl boost prices. Its called growth.

5 & 6. Goverment burecrats love to lay new rules and regulatons on us, I'm sure we would have a similar regime. Our ACLU is more worried about Chhristmas mangers than protecting us.

8. All kinds of idealouges in our marketplace of ideas. Just like here !

11. Plenty of Jews had to leave thier homes in Iraq, Iran, Algeria ect and move to Israiel the tradeoff seems about right. loose your anger.

12. Jeruasalem has a vibrant christian population. My niece spent summer vacation there with relatives.

13. Rachel Corrie would be alive if her handlers hadn't encouraged her to commit suicide. These folks place no value on human life. They were cheeering on the sidelines while she got wacked by that buldozer.

17. US Taxpayers would still be broke The goverment loves spending money to employ thier cronies, buy votes build more burecracies, conduct roadblocks, strip searches, infared photographhy. Ect.

 

This is arguably the stupidest yet probably the most well-cited post I've ever seen. And the original poster isn't even a Yank!!! Usually it takes an American idiot to over-simplify, catagorize, and point blame to such a degree.

What're ya tryin ta do Solve... make us look smart er sumthin???

 

The thread itself is both spot on and far from oversimplifed. Responses as the one just above however are every bit that which they ignorantly and simplistically attempt to claim about the thread or the deceit and grasping intent of the Zionist ideological agenda with which it is concerned.

If ever there was a cognitive and rational block in the minds of the sheepish majority, it revolves around any mention of a clear and historically well documented and extensively analyzed ideological movement born of the same European cauldron of thought as its colonialist-era contemporaries, Naziism and Apartheid.

 

Facts are facts you racist...

 

Because I will not waste my time with something so idiotic.

Stop living in the past.

 

so you won't answer some pretty simple questions of what you believe in?

 

Its hard to argue against what is well known to be true (Rubin knows this). The emperor is revealed as having no clothes...

 

I've been through the Israel debate on this forum a million times and it leads nowhere. People are stuck within thier fanatic notions. I myself am an Israeli citizen skipping the Israeli draft as a moral objector... that itself should tell you enough.

 

you sound like one strange old objector to war.

for example when solve et coagula posted this........

"US Forces Ready to Destroy 10,000 Targets in the Middle East in a Few Hours

THE END OF THE BEGINNING by Dan Plesch: US Forces Ready to Destroy 10,000 Targets in the Middle East in a Few Hours

"Speculation aside, we do know that Don Rumsfeld has placed US forces on alert. "We're now at the point where we are essentially on alert," lieutenant-colonel Bruce Carlson, commander of the 8th Air Force, said. "We have the capacity to plan and execute global strikes in half a day or less."

you posted.....

"good"

what i'm saying is this. i don't believe you. i don't think that you are quite the sunshine and lollipops kind of guy that you sometimes would like to present yourself as. your posts are incongruous. think on this. get out the house go for a wander, get away from the fanatics they are twisting your mind. you need sometime to think for yourself, there are alot of questions and answers that don't come prepackaged. forget winning the debate. there are plenty of times i have been wrong on something, usually when i'm using a prepackaged answer. when i'm forced to break the mould and think for myself about another opinion, there is of course always resistance. time alone and more thinking provides a clearer picture. i don't know all the answers, and don't pretend you know them either but i can tell you this the answers don't come from the lips of rabbis or politicians. think for yourself, remove yourself from the prepackaged answers, know when you are being played.

 

Friend, you are projecting. Also: you ARE NOT an American at all since you have dual citizenship.