What do you think of the rottweiler attack on that 5 month old baby?

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  1. PaulasRotties

    PaulasRotties Member

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    What's your virdict on the attack and why do you think it happened?

    Baby girl dies after attack by dogs


    Press Association
    Sunday September 24, 2006 5:43 PM


    A five-month-old girl has died after she was mauled by two Rottweiler dogs.

    The baby was savaged by the animals at a pub in Stephenson Drive in the New Park area of Leicester.

    She was rushed to the city's Royal Infirmary where she died from her injuries. The two dogs were seized by police who were called to the address.

    A spokesman for Leicestershire Police said: "Police and ambulance personnel were called to the scene of the attack at living premises at The Rocket public house in Stephenson Drive. The five month old girl was rushed to Leicester Royal Infirmary but tragically died of her injuries. The Rottweiler dogs were removed from the scene by police. Officers are investigating circumstances surrounding the incident."

    Flowers and teddy bears have been left in the doorway of the pub, which remains closed to the public. Neighbours said the two dogs were used as guard dogs and belonged to the landlord.

    The parents of the baby girl were believed to have been looking after the pub - and the dogs - while the landlord was on holiday, they claimed.

    Amy Grimbley said: "As far as we know the couple in the pub are there looking after it for the owner. The dogs are known to be vicious. They are guard dogs. They stay on the roof during the day and whenever you walk past you get the feeling they could just jump down and attack you. They are very aggressive. Everybody around here is petrified of them."

    Miss Grimbley said the pub was a family pub, which regularly held discos.

    "The dogs were never allowed in the pub, they were kept upstairs in the living quarters," she added. "There's a school opposite the pub, for both infants and juniors and nobody is really happy walking their kids past the pub after school. I've got a three-year-old and I don't feel at all safe walking past them. Most adults are terrified of them, never mind kids."

    Ms Grimbley's father James said: "Our hearts go out to the parents of that poor baby. Everybody is just so shocked at what has happened. Everybody is talking about it, nobody can believe it. We know guard dogs are needed these days because pubs get raided but you have got to be careful with them if they have been brought up as security dogs rather than family pets."





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  2. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    Im really not sure why one would do such a thing, inless it was treated badly by its so called owner...Ive owned Rottie's and they are loyal and sweet and loving...Ive had 4 children grow up with them and never had to worry..in fact, they would watch over my babies as if they were their own pups. Its sad, but I have to wonder about the dogs owner !!!!
     
  3. PaulasRotties

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    I myself have been brought up with rottweilers and as you said their is not an agressive bone in their body!!

    fair enough their big powerful dogs but i think the publicity on them lately is unfair i mean no1 said anything about that german shepherd dog that ate half a baby! SO WHY go on about a freak accident that happened by two highly trained guard dog's THERES A DIFFERENCE!!
     
  4. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    May the Rotties souls find peace...my heart breaks for them !!!!!....and the baby also
     
  5. MikeE

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    Because a five year old girl is dead.

    She's not going to graduate from High School.
    She's never going have a first kiss.
    She'll never learn to add 2 and 2.
    She is going to be in a box under six feet of dirt.

    They aren't going on about a freak issue of animal control. They are going on about a mother weeping at her baby's graveside.
     
  6. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    I said my heart breaks for the baby also.......Im a mother of 4 and a grandmother of 5
     
  7. Sage-Phoenix

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    There's no denying that rottis are powerful potentially aggressive dogs. That is why they exist in the first place, it's the history of the breed. So I feel it is dangerously naive to suggest they aren't aggressive*, and would naturally be good family pets without a level of training which perhaps a lot of people couldn't provide. That said I don't think they should be outright banned or whatever is the knee jerk reaction of the day. By blaming the breed I think people loose sight of the fact that for the most part how dogs are/act is shaped by their guardians ability or lack thereof to provide suitable training and socialisation.


    Of course this is a very tragic situation, but to be honest I'm not all that suprised. These dogs were trained as guards dogs, so probably not well socialised. Accident waiting to happen really.

    *Frankly any dog, regardless of breed, has the potential to be agressive if pushed. Though interestingly it seems the big 'dangeous' dogs are better behaved than smaller supposedly 'friendly' breeds (terriers in particular).
     
  8. DeathRowDisco

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    My heart also goes out to the girl, her family, and the dogs.

    I think, with a dog like that... ANY big dog... people have to be careful. If they don't understand how important that is, they shouldn't have the dog.

    I mean, Kodos is a gentle giant like no other I've ever owned or met before. He's more well mannered, well trained and well aware of his surroundings than any other dog I've ever seen. Some of his favourite things in the world are little dogs and little kids - my best guess is it's because they never run out of energy, hehe. But even then, when we approach a small dog or child (or they approach us) my VERY FIRST instinct is to go "Kodos, gentle..." so he knows that he has to be careful, not jump or anything. I think ANY dog owner, big or small dogs, yorkies or min-pins, rottweilers or pitbulls or shepherds or labs, I don't care, ANY dog owner should feel safe/secure having their dog around little ones. Even if they don't have kids, never plan to, don't have kids around their house, etc. It's just necessary, in my opinion.
     
  9. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    Shhhhh Mike, don't you know? We are supposed to feel worse for the "innocent" dogs then we are for the baby.:rolleyes:

    With that said, that was gutwrenching, Mike. I have 2 little girls and if someone's dogs ever attacked them, both those humans and those dogs better run from the rifle I will have aimed at them.
     
  10. PaulasRotties

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    THANK YOU exactly my point also once a guarddog always a guard dog!
     
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    I agree if that was my kids i would be very upset to, i feel for the parents but i also feel bad for the dogs they were doing what they were tought to and that was to guard the pub no1 can say otherwise!
     
  12. wiggy

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    The baby was in her cot and the parents where out the room - it was the blokes dads pub!! but he was away so asked his son, his GF and their baby to look after the pub and dogs - the dogs where guard dogs, people didnt want to walk past the pub because they thought the dogs might attack them!! Somehow the dogs got hold of the baby and dragged her outside and maulded her - where were the parents!!!! Why did they leave 2 aggressive dogs alone with a 5 month old? A 5 month old who couldnt do anything to protect herself!!
    I feel so sorry for the baby, BUT the dogs as well - they where doing what they thought was right - someone from another website told me dogs generally go fo rthe smell of urine and the girl had a nappy on and they must have smelt the urine and thought she was going to do something bad or whatever.

    IMO you dont have kids and dogs - you dont leave any child in the room with any dog EVER
     
  13. PaulasRotties

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    I strongly agree they shouldn't have especially when they were afraid of the dogs their selves!!
     
  14. cutelildeadbear

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    Yeah, my initial reaction was why the hell is a 5 month old at a pub anyway (yes I read the article and understand however, if my boyfriend had to go tend to a pub, and I had a 5 month old, I'd be at home with my baby and he would be at the pub). My second is where the fuck were the parents that the dogs had time to do this to the baby. And these dogs in particular were known to be aggressive to say the least about them. I'm not saying all rotties are I'm just saying that everyone in town knew that these two were, so why on earth would one even think of bringing the baby there.
     
  15. eveninmadness

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    Its not the dog, its the owner.

    In all cases.
     
  16. cutelildeadbear

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    That is somewhat true, dogs can be trained one way or another, but the parents are flat out stupid if not negligent for taking their baby there to begin with. I'm sure the dogs did not hurt the baby because they hate babies, they were protecting their territory, plus who knows what was going through the dog's mind, he could have thought it was his young and dogs are more "rough" with their pups than humans are. For all we know the dog could have thought he was helping the baby. The parents are to blame for this one folks. There is no way around it.
     

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